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1998 Cadillac Deville

Tiny
LANDEMARTIN
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  • 1998 CADILLAC DEVILLE
  • V8
  • FWD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 124,800 MILES
Engine idles at 650 to 700 without air. With air on, idle speed fluctuates between 625 and 900 rpm. This is too slow to keep compressor running efficiently. Cycles on and off every 3 seconds.

Does this indicate a defective idler control sensor/relay?
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Sunday, June 28th, 2009 AT 10:48 PM

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Tiny
FACTORYJACK
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I would lean more towards an A/C concern, since it only happens with A/C compressor on. Possibly an under/over charge, or failing compressor. The fact that it does fine when the A/C is off leads me to think the IAC is fine. You have no stall, or high idle. It sounds like the load from the compressor is drawing it down.
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Sunday, June 28th, 2009 AT 11:10 PM
Tiny
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Thank you for your reply. I just had a new compressor installed 11 months ago. And I had the freon level and the compressor checked last week. The mechanics told me they thought I needed a cooling fan (one wasn't working) and a new thermostat, so they installed these components. It didn't fix the problem.
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Monday, June 29th, 2009 AT 7:06 AM
Tiny
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Does the system cycle normally when the engine speed is brought up? The fast cycle time usually indicates that the pressure is pulling down rapidly, either by undercharge or a restriction. Does it seem to cool adequately? If there was another fault that would cause the PCM to stop with compressor operation, it should have some ACM codes in the programmer, or stored fault codes in the PCM.
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Monday, June 29th, 2009 AT 9:52 PM
Tiny
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Yes, the system cycles normally when engine speed is brought up. The mechanic said the system is full of freon.

There is a Service Engine Soon light on, but I don't know what codes it is returning.

I took off the AIC controller this morning. The plunger had black soot and grease/grime all over it. I cleaned it off with a cloth and squirted a dab of WD-40 into it and replaced it. After reinstalling it, the engine seemed to run about 50 rpm faster than it did before. The compressor didn't cycle but once every minute or so after that; however, the outside temperature was considerably cooler today than the other days I've been testing it.
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Monday, June 29th, 2009 AT 10:16 PM

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