1998 Saturn SC2 is throwing P0401 code.

Tiny
TMUDGE123
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  • 1998 SATURN SC2
  • 149,000 MILES
I have changed egr valve, cleaned ports, changed engine temp sensor, tps, map, sensor, plugs, wires. What am I missing here?
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Monday, October 10th, 2011 AT 11:50 PM

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Tiny
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Are sure the egr ports are clear both the ports?Thats a short trouble tree for that code egr not working or clogged ports. The best way to see if the ports are clogged is to remove the egr valve start the car up for a few seconds the engine should race and you should hear a loud exhaust leak. Did you do that to make sure the egr ports arent clogged?
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Tuesday, October 11th, 2011 AT 12:23 AM
Tiny
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Yes, I have cleaned the ports while the egr was off.
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Tuesday, October 11th, 2011 AT 12:56 AM
Tiny
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I asked if you checked to see if the ports were clear like I check them?Did you check them like that but starting and seeing that the engine raced and you could hear the loud exhaust leak?Jist because you cleaned them doesnt mean that there clear and not clogged or restricted.
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Tuesday, October 11th, 2011 AT 1:02 AM
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Yes, I did it in the manner you discribed. Yes, the engine raced, and I could hear the exhaust leak one port is sucking and the other blows, both very well.
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Tuesday, October 11th, 2011 AT 1:08 AM
Tiny
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Alright on top of the egr valve where the connector goes there should be a part number please post that part number for me.
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Tuesday, October 11th, 2011 AT 1:12 AM
Tiny
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This is the second one, its from autozone pn 110428206
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Tuesday, October 11th, 2011 AT 1:21 AM
Tiny
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What is number on the box it came in?The number you gave on the valve doesnt match the number on the autozone website. Also compare the port opens from the egr valve you took the car came with compared to the new valve make sure the opening match in size. Let me know what you find.
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Tuesday, October 11th, 2011 AT 4:01 AM
Tiny
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Its the EGR1044 Duralast.
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Tuesday, October 11th, 2011 AT 1:08 PM
Tiny
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Oh, I bought the car second hand, the Egr valve that was on it was not the org. One (aftermarket) So I cant be sure the old was was right either.
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Tuesday, October 11th, 2011 AT 1:10 PM
Tiny
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The old one that was on the car was it a duralast egr valve also?If not whats that part number?
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Tuesday, October 11th, 2011 AT 3:39 PM
Tiny
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The very first one is long gone I do believe it was a aftermarket as well but, like I said this is the second one I have put on it since I've had it. It was giving the p0401 code when I bought it, I put a new one on, still gave code, I thought that maybe I had a defective egr so I went and got another one. Both of the ones I bought were duralast.I can not be sure what was on there before.
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Tuesday, October 11th, 2011 AT 5:52 PM
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I remember seeing and hearing about a bulletin that was taking about the wrong year egr valves will bolt up and cause a flow code because the flow rate is different. According to autozones online catalog that is the correct part number atleast on the box itself. It doesnt list the part number you have on the valve itself it only gives the number on the box itself for oart nunbers. So no way of telling if it was missed box all together for that part.I have seen some crazy things in my day. My niece has a 2009 toyota corrolla its the japan built one I got the japan built front brakes to replace them and they didnt fit. Went to the auto parts store and found all the different brand brakes had the japan and american built corolla front brake pads boxed opposite we had to get the american boxed ones those are the ones that fit. Also my friend has a galant 1986 and all the auto parts store have the same listing this tiny little battery that is way too small again wrong listing. Thats why I want you to compare the openings of the valve because anything is possible even with factory parts. So from what I feel is you have the wrong egr valve some how or some how one of the ports are clogged enough to set a flow code. If it was the valve itself or the wiring going to it it shoukd set a different code for that. If you had a tech2 scan tool we could command it open and see if the engine ran real rough at idle and we could check it that way.
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Tuesday, October 11th, 2011 AT 6:15 PM
Tiny
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If it help you any.I does idle rough at idle.
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Tuesday, October 11th, 2011 AT 6:21 PM
Tiny
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You never mentioned the rough idle before?Do you have any idea why it has a rough idle?Vacuum leak possibly?It only runs rough at idle?
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Tuesday, October 11th, 2011 AT 6:28 PM
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Yes, pretty much only at idle. Other than that it runs very well, still 33 mpg and alot of get up and go. Umm, not sure if its a vacuum leak or what.I have been doing research to find that out as well.
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Tuesday, October 11th, 2011 AT 6:32 PM
Tiny
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Are you sure its running rough and its just not a collasped/torn upper motor mount making it feel like its running rough?The mount over by the valve cover and coolant bottle?
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Tuesday, October 11th, 2011 AT 7:18 PM
Tiny
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You know what.I think your right now that I think about it. That mount doesnt look well at all and the engine move (more than it should) when I hit the throtttle.
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Tuesday, October 11th, 2011 AT 7:25 PM
Tiny
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Its really common for those mounts to fail and it will feel like you have a rough idle but its really just a bad mount. Sounds like you should see if that mount is bad.
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Tuesday, October 11th, 2011 AT 7:30 PM
Tiny
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I will, thanks for that. It looks pretty easy to change out.(?) Ot is there more to it than meets the eye?
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Tuesday, October 11th, 2011 AT 7:32 PM
Tiny
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All you need to do is get a floor jack put a piece of wood between the jack and the oil pan jack up the jack againist the oil pan to hold the weight of the engine then remove the mount.I would get the auto zone mount it comes with studs make sure you replace the studs it comes with.
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Tuesday, October 11th, 2011 AT 8:45 PM

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