I am getting no power to the ECM.

Tiny
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All 4 fuel injectors keep pumping gas and flooding the engine.
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Tuesday, October 11th, 2011 AT 3:31 PM

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Tiny
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The ECM is grounding the injector circuits. Have the ECM checked/tested.
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Tuesday, October 11th, 2011 AT 4:43 PM
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I still need to know why I am not getting power to the ecm?
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Tuesday, October 11th, 2011 AT 4:57 PM
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Have you checked the fuses?
How do you know the ECM is not getting power?
Does the Check Engine Light comer on and goes off after 2 seconds when ignition is turned on?
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Tuesday, October 11th, 2011 AT 5:19 PM
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Fuses checked and all OK. We checked all the ECM ports with test light and no power. There are 3 plugs in the ECM, one blue and two gray, (one small gray and one larger gray plug) we want to know if we can run power into one of the wires in one of these plugs, and into which color wire to get power to the ECM.
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Tuesday, October 11th, 2011 AT 5:51 PM
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Here are the wiring schematics.
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Tuesday, October 11th, 2011 AT 6:09 PM
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I have the schematics. Can you tell me which color wire to put power to.
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Tuesday, October 11th, 2011 AT 6:18 PM
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There must be constant battry voltage at terminal C10 (White/Blue wire).

Yellow/Black wire at terminal A11 and A 24 receives battery voltage from the PGM-FI main relay when ignition switch is turned on.

Have you checked/tested the PGM-FI main relay? You did not reply to my questions about the CEL etc in my previous post.
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Tuesday, October 11th, 2011 AT 6:35 PM
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The CEL stays on when key is in on position along with other display lights
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Tuesday, October 11th, 2011 AT 9:31 PM
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Most likely the PGM-FI main relay is bad. That is one of the most common cause of non starting. The main relay has two circuits in it, one for the fual pump and the other for the ECM. During initial ignitiuon on, the CEL would turn on for 2 seconds and then goes off when the ECM has self check and the fuel pump circuit is cut off after priming the citcuit.

Remove the main relay and check the circuit board. Have the joints resoldered if any of them looks cracked, usually cracks are visible but might not be easily detected.

If terminal C10 (White/Blue wire) does not have any battery voltage, check the underhood fuse.

For the Yellow/Black wire at terminal A11 and A24, ensure there is battery voltage coming out of the main relay with ignition switch turned on.
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Wednesday, October 12th, 2011 AT 4:40 PM
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We have tried all the above and still having problems. We believe it may be a wiring problem. Can you tell us what the on/off voltage is for each pin in the ecm.
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Monday, October 17th, 2011 AT 9:56 PM
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Does the CEL goes off after 2 seconds when ignition switch is turned on?

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There must be constant battery voltage at terminal C10 (White/Blue wire).

Yellow/Black wire at terminal A11 and A 24 receives battery voltage from the PGM-FI main relay when ignition switch is turned on.

Do you have battery voltage for these terminals?
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Tuesday, October 18th, 2011 AT 1:39 PM
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Yes to all above. There is constant battery voltage at terminal C10 and the yellow/black wire at terminal A11 and A24 has voltage when the ignition switch is turned on.
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Tuesday, October 18th, 2011 AT 2:57 PM
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The ECM is bad
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Tuesday, October 18th, 2011 AT 4:39 PM
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Before I spend lots of bucks on an ECM could you tell me the On/OFF volts for each pin on the A, C, and D plugs.
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Tuesday, October 18th, 2011 AT 8:24 PM
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Remove the ECM and open the cover. Look at the capacitors on the circuit board and if you find any that is leaking, get them replaced and the ECM might work. If you have voltage to the ECM and the grounding circuit is good, there is nothing much you can do even if you check through.

The grounding connection at the thermostat housing has to be good for the ECM to work correctly and if any work was done there, recheck the grounding point.
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Wednesday, October 19th, 2011 AT 12:25 PM

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