Ghost Start Up

Tiny
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1998 Toyota Camry LE, Mileage <120000, Automatic, 4 cylinder, 2 Wheel Drive
My car broke down a couple days ago, here is the scenario. I go out to my car like any other day and try to start it up, but it doesn't start. I then cranked it again and about half way through starting up everything just dies, i.E. No cabin light, radio, prestart, nada. So my friend and I look under the hood and the battery cable terminals are horrendously corroded, so we clean those and replace both Positive (+) and Negative (-) terminals. We reconnect the Negative (-) terminal to the battery, but when we go to connect the Positive (+) terminal, (with no keys in the ignition) to the post the starter turns over like its getting ready to start. When the ignition key is turned to the on position and we reconnect the Positive (+) battery terminal and the car actually starts and then dies after about 2 seconds. We called out a mechanic the other day to diagnose the problem and he stated the ignition switch had shorted out and was stuck in the "on" position. I wanted to get a second diagnoses from two "pros". Thanks -D
Monday, July 16th, 2007 AT 9:51 PM

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Tiny
RASMATAZ
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Here's my opinion:if its acting like that change the ignition switch, the key controls the starter, if its stuck in the start positon it will do that.-Good Luck!
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Tuesday, July 17th, 2007 AT 4:39 AM
Tiny
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OKay its about 8:20 now and the mechanic that came out changed the ignition switch, but the starter still turns over when the positive battery terminal is connected. He's getting the starter tested at Auto-Zone right now and will be back soon to see if its the starter that is the problem.
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Wednesday, July 18th, 2007 AT 10:21 AM
Tiny
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So we clean those and replace both Positive (+) and Negative (-) terminals. We reconnect the Negative (-) terminal to the battery, but when we go to connect the Positive (+) terminal, (with no keys in the ignition) to the post the starter turns over like its getting ready to start

The starter has a direct short to ground

Here's how the start circuit goes-from key thru the NSS/Inhibitor, starter relay and starter. Without the key there is no power thru the start circuit.
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Wednesday, July 18th, 2007 AT 3:50 PM
Tiny
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Actually it just turned out that the starter's fly wheel was getting 'stuck' extended and not retracting upon startup. A three dollar can of spray on starter grease fixed the problem. Thanks for all your inquiry about my car's problem Rasmataz.
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Thursday, July 19th, 2007 AT 1:19 AM

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