Secondary air injection system, code P0411

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Checked fuses and swapped out relay no help. Code is still on. Is a recall in store or is it the check valve or air pump?
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Monday, July 29th, 2019 AT 8:22 PM (Merged)
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See if the check valve at the exhaust pipe is good, where the air injection feeds into. Usually a secondary air fault is due to the check valve being bad, allowing ehxaust to travel back into the air system. Can you hear the air pump run when engine is started cold?If not use a test light to see if it is getting power.
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Monday, July 29th, 2019 AT 8:22 PM (Merged)
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I have a P 0410 error code on my vehicle. I need help regarding what to replace; the secondary air injection pump or secondary air injection solenoid valve. Or could it be a relay? Any help in directing me to additional diagnostics, or pat replacement will be appreciated. Thank you.
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Monday, July 29th, 2019 AT 8:23 PM (Merged)
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1st check the related fuses. If have a scan tool use it to turn the air pump on. The air pump and air pump relay are located on the driver side frame rail just bellow the drivers door. If that bi-directional communication is not available on your scan tool you can ground the brown wire on the air pump relay and turn the key on. This should turn the pump on if the relay is working the wiring to it is intact and the pump is in working order.

Now that the air pump is running open the air solenoid. You should hear a difference in the sound of the pump. Another way to verify it is opening is to unhook the fresh air pipe from the air cleaner assembly and feel for a vacuum when the solenoid is commanded on. If the valve is not opening try tapping on it when you command it open. If your scan tool does not support this option you can jump the relay in the under hood fuse box. However before removing the valve verify that you have power and ground when you are commanding the air solenoid open.

You may find that the supply pipe from the air pump to the valve is full of water. If this is the case make sure you blow out the lines before replacing any parts
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Monday, July 29th, 2019 AT 8:23 PM (Merged)
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Also incase all checked ok

Repeat SES Light due to a P0410 DTC - Possible O2 Sensor

Models: 2004-2005 Buick Rainier

2004-2005 Chevrolet TrailBlazer

2004-2005 GMC Envoy

2004 Oldsmobile Bravada

2005 Saab 9-7x

with 4.2L Engine (VIN S - RPO LL8)

The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the symptom(s) described in this PI.

Condition/Concern:
Currently, the SI diagnostics do not mention the position 1 O2 sensor as a potential cause of a P0410 DTC.

Recommendation/Instructions:
If the SI diagnostics do not isolate the cause of a P0410 DTC, there is no sign of dirt or water in the AIR pump or relay, and proper AIR check valve operation is noted, replace the position 1 O2 sensor.

Please follow this diagnostic or repair process thoroughly and complete each step. If the condition exhibited is resolved without completing every step, the remaining steps do not need to be performed.
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Monday, July 29th, 2019 AT 8:23 PM (Merged)
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Thank you for all the information. I do not know if my scan tool is sophisticated enough for bi-directional communication; however, you gave me enough additional trouble shooting to pursue. I do have additional information for you that may help: when I started the vehicle this morning, there was a higher pitch sound eminating form the engine compartment. The sound was similar to when you put you hand over the end of a vacuum cleaner hose and increase the load on the vacuum motor. I was able to feel the pump running for approximately 20 - 30 seconds then it stopped. Is this functioning correctly or should it have run longer? Thanks, Steve
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Monday, July 29th, 2019 AT 8:23 PM (Merged)
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Its about right
check the hose if full of water (drain )
tap on the valve (check if stuck)
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Monday, July 29th, 2019 AT 8:23 PM (Merged)
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I replaced the solenoid check valve, cleared the P0410 code. Vehicle was running fine until today when the check engine light came on again. I scanned and a P0128 code came up which I found out means " coolant temperature below thermostat regulating temperature". Does this mean the thermostat has to be replaced? The vehicle runs fine, the dashbord temerature gauge reads its normal temperature. Thank you.
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Monday, July 29th, 2019 AT 8:23 PM (Merged)
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Check engine light is on before 2years
changed o2 sensor
throttle body changed
mass air flow changed
no air out from secondary air pump
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Monday, July 29th, 2019 AT 8:23 PM (Merged)
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Check coolant if low add as needed and check for leaks
if not suspect bad thermostat
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Monday, July 29th, 2019 AT 8:23 PM (Merged)
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Typically its the relay for the secondary air pump that goes bad. I think if I remember right its located near the frame rail on the driverside?
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Monday, July 29th, 2019 AT 8:23 PM (Merged)
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Thank you for your reply. The coolant level is unchanged and there are no leaks. I do not understand how the vehicle could have a bad thermostat if the temperature gauge is reading normal. I only know that a thermostat works or doesn't work. Can newer thermostats work at less than 100% function? Thank you, Steve
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Monday, July 29th, 2019 AT 8:23 PM (Merged)
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If you have a test light I would check to see if your getting power to the pump at the connector. What are the codes that come up with scan tool?
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Monday, July 29th, 2019 AT 8:23 PM (Merged)
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PCM monitor engine temperature on start up a lazy thermostat would take longer for the engine to reach operating temp setting a code
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Monday, July 29th, 2019 AT 8:23 PM (Merged)
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I tested the relay by voltmeter
And test the fuse and they were fine.
The relay under side driver
How I can turn the air pump on manually?
I tested the relay by connected #85 V to battery
And #30 W tested by voltmeter And give me0.002
Is this reading right?
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Monday, July 29th, 2019 AT 8:23 PM (Merged)
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Thank you for explaining this to me. I did not know something like this would be monitored. Steve
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Monday, July 29th, 2019 AT 8:23 PM (Merged)
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Should the air pump turn on immediately when I turn the engine on, or it starts working after awhile?
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Monday, July 29th, 2019 AT 8:23 PM (Merged)
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Where is the secondary air injection pump on a 2005 chevy trailblazer and is it something I can replace on my own?
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Monday, July 29th, 2019 AT 8:23 PM (Merged)
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The air pump and air pump relay are located on the driver side frame rail just bellow the drivers door.
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