Low cylinder compression = engine replacement

Tiny
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Hi,
First time poster here, but I appreciate any advice that can be offered. I live in Ireland and last February I imported a Mazda 6 2.2 diesel from the UK (cars are cheaper there). It was from a trade auction house and had a full service history.

It had been running like a dream until a couple of weeks ago, when I was travelling for work and the 'inspect engine' light came on and I brought it to a Mazda dealer, who did the diagnostics and said it was a faulty emissions monitor. He said this was easy and quite cheap to fix but he did not have the part.

So I brought it home and arranged to leave it up to a main dealer nearby. It has been in the shop two days now and first they told me it looked like a problem with the ERG cooler, then said they needed to do a compression test.

Next they came back and said there was low compression in one cylinder and the engine may have to be replaced and they are waiting on a response from Mazda's goodwill section to see if the company will pay for it.

I have two questions:
1) Is it logical that a fault logged as something simple by one dealer could suddenly show up as something else with another? There is now no mention of emissions at all!

2) Is it possible the second dealer is trying to rip me off? I have heard a number of negative stories about them since, including one where they tried to sell damaged wheels to a customer and when caught, tried to touch them up and convince him they were new!
Can dealers fake this kind of data to send to Mazda?

Much obliged for pointers from those in the know.
Saturday, November 24th, 2018 AT 12:58 AM

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Tiny
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Good morning,

If you have a low compression in one cylinder, it will cause an emissions issue. That would explain that.

1. The second shop may have done a better diagnostic than the first. I would ask to see the results of the test they performed to verify. that. See if they can show you the result of low compression. If they are honest, they will let you see it. If they will not, then that would raise a red flag.

2. Anything is possible. I do not pay attention too much to reviews as they are just people who think pricing is high and are mad there car needs work from lack of maintenance on their part.

As far as the repair, it has low enough mileage to repair but the exact reason for the low compression needs to be checked and then an estimate must be prepared with exact causes for the failure.

Roy

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/the-reasons-for-low-compression
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Saturday, November 24th, 2018 AT 5:24 AM
Tiny
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Thanks very much for that, Roy. At the moment, I am waiting to get the compression data back from them, which I have been promised. However, the guy claims he can only send me on a photo of the results, which seems odd.

Secondly, my fears that this is an attempted rip-off have grown. I have spoken to another mechanic who deals with Mazda 6s regularly. He tells me there is no way the entire engine would have to be replaced just because of low compression in one cylinder. He also tells me I would have noticed such a problem in the driving of the car (I did not).

I should probably have clarified that my reservations about this particular dealership's honesty are based on the following: my cousin bought a brand new Audi SUV from them and they tried to give him resprayed second hand alloys with it.

When he noticed it, they first denied point blank, then said the second hand wheels must have been mistakenly stocked among the new ones. He had to send a legal letter to the CEO to get satisfaction. Unfortunately, I only discovered this after going to them for what I expected to be a rudimentary repair.

It is possible this is indeed a low cylinder compression issue, but unless they come back and tell me Mazda is going to cover everything, I am going to pay for the compression test, then take it away and get it rechecked elsewhere.
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Monday, November 26th, 2018 AT 5:57 AM
Tiny
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The only way to verify is for them to perform the test in front of you to show you the result. Most places cannot print the results of that test.

As far as the Mazda guy, he cannot tell if it needs a new engine unless he has x ray eyes. The engine can be disassembled and found damage that would exceed the cost of replacement. Any engine can be repaired but it all about economics. I would dismiss his assessment.

Roy
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Monday, November 26th, 2018 AT 1:12 PM

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