Will not start

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HITMANH2001
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Thanks man that was it.
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Tuesday, April 25th, 2017 AT 11:45 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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  • 1997 LINCOLN CONTINENTAL
  • 197,000 MILES
I noticed one day walking that I had a hose hanging from under my gas tank. I tried jum starting it, it turned over at the click of the key, didn't notice the fuel pump engaging. Don't think anything happened. Everything else worked fine. Nothing dimmed.
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Tuesday, April 25th, 2017 AT 11:46 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Could be a evap hose. Look under to see if the other end is right there to re connect

Roy
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Tuesday, April 25th, 2017 AT 11:46 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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  • 1997 LINCOLN CONTINENTAL
  • 4.6L
  • V8
  • FWD
  • AUTOMATIC
  • 156,000 MILES
Drove home parked it for the nite, no start in the morning. Tried a couple of different times over a couple of days and charged up the battery but no luck.
Swapped pcm relay. No change. Have not given the gas tank a whack yet to jog the fuel pump if that is it.
I have an extra crank sensor(friend did it on my sons 97 conti even though it didnt need it when it needed for a cam sensor)
I need to know where to find it and the quickest way to change it. It is single digits out there.
If you have other ideas about what else to check let me know
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Tuesday, April 25th, 2017 AT 11:46 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Scan for codes and check fuel pressure first with a gauge then try resetting security system if no m annual look online
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Tuesday, April 25th, 2017 AT 11:46 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Can scan codes later(dont have one, but brother does and will bring it). Dont have a way to test for fuel pressure, but I can check to see if there is any at the relief valve. I think to reset the theft system I can put the key(this is an unchipped key system) and lock then unlock the drivers door.
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Tuesday, April 25th, 2017 AT 11:46 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Auto parts rent gauge should be a Schrader valve at fuel rail
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Tuesday, April 25th, 2017 AT 11:46 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Have pressure at rail schrader valve, unable to test now.
I am by myself and cant hear the fuel pump pressure up though and wacking the tank with the key on did not produce any additional noise or result.
Also, locked and unlocked the door with the key and the combination code with no result.
Still want to know where the crank sensor is exactly as it is something I can do while waiting for my brother to come, it eliminates one more thing if it doesnt solve the problem.
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Tuesday, April 25th, 2017 AT 11:46 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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I also think that if the CPS is faulty I may not get spark and or fuel thanks to a feedback circuit. I am not sure about that, but if true, the other tests mean I need to check/change it anyway.
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Tuesday, April 25th, 2017 AT 11:46 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Replaced it with the spare and the car started up immediately.
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Tuesday, April 25th, 2017 AT 11:46 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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  • 1997 LINCOLN CONTINENTAL
  • 84,000 MILES
I just had this happen with my expedition & it was the fuel pump, so of course this is my suspicion for this vehicle. Tank is 3/4 full.
What/how can I test for power to fuel pump. And spark?
What else can I check/do before I call to have it hauled off.
Luckily, when my truck it died it was at my brother in laws shop. Not so lucky this time(and all of 2 weeks aprt).
I have tried hitting the tank with a jack handle a few times to see if the fuel pump would kick on(assuming it was that) but that didnt work.
Where in the tank is the pump-so I get a closer shot.
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Tuesday, April 25th, 2017 AT 11:46 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Do you have a check engine light?

Test for a good blue spark and proper fuel pressure at the fuel rail.
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Tuesday, April 25th, 2017 AT 11:46 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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New fuel filter a few thousand miles ago. Has been running great with no service light/no codes. I do not hear the fuel pump.
It here a fuel bleed valve under the hood to check for pressure?
The book does not show a fuel pump fuse or relay. Possibly PCM diode?/Relay?/Fuse? I know how to check the fuse. How do I check diode? I am hoping there are other relays I can sub to see if that cures it after I press the fuel pump reset button in the trunk.
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Tuesday, April 25th, 2017 AT 11:46 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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https://www.2carpros.com/articles/testing-a-fuel-pump-and-pressure-regulator-video
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Tuesday, April 25th, 2017 AT 11:46 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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I'll check for pressure tomorrow.
Try & check for spark and power to the pump as well.
Thanks.
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Tuesday, April 25th, 2017 AT 11:46 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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I have seen a lot of complaints about the crank position sensor causing no start issue. Where is it on my conti?
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Tuesday, April 25th, 2017 AT 11:46 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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The CPS On lower right side of engine. See item no.59
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Tuesday, April 25th, 2017 AT 11:46 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Car did not start on multiple attempts on friday afternoon. Sunday morning I had a chance to go back with tools and info. Very first thing was to put jumper cables on it to boost up the cranked down battery. Then I popped the trunk and checked the fuel shut off-not popped & shut off the sir ride so I could hear the pump-maybe. I then checked fuse 11 inside the car and the fuses, diode & relay under hood-swaping them for identical matches in the fusebox. Then I pushed on the bleeded on the fuel rail, it spit and ran a little. Then I popped tha gas cap & asked my wife to listen for fuel pump when I turned key on-she didnt & neither did i, but then I went one farther and the car started and then ran fine for 20 miles to my brother in laws shop. I am considering doing the fuel pump and the crank pos sensor. Any other ideas?
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Tuesday, April 25th, 2017 AT 11:46 AM (Merged)
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  • 1997 LINCOLN CONTINENTAL
Computer problem
1997 Lincoln Continental V8 Front Wheel Drive Automatic

My lincoln cont. Wont start! I checked the started it still good, sounds like the start just spinnes, getting no fire.
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Tuesday, April 25th, 2017 AT 11:46 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Lets do below for a start to determine if its fuel or spark related issue and get back asap.

Get a helper disconnect a sparkplug wire or 2 and ground it to the engine atleast 3/16 away from ground-have helper crank engine over-do you have a snapping blue spark? If so-you have a fuel related problem, check the fuel pressure to rule out the fuel filter/fuel pump/pressure regulator and listen to the injector/s are they pulsing or hook up a noid light. No snapping blue spark continue to troubleshoot the ignition system-power input to the coil/coil packs, coil's resistances, distributor pick-up coil, ignition control module, cam and crank sensors and computer Note: If it doesn't apply disregard it
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