Idles high when transmission is in neutral and in park?

Tiny
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  • 1991 BUICK SKYLARK
  • 2.5L
  • 3 CYL
  • 2WD
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  • 100,000 MILES
Hi, I have replaced the EGR valve, IAC, and the TPS. It has new plugs and wires and it still has the same issue.
Friday, June 2nd, 2023 AT 7:41 AM

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Tiny
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Hi,

How high is the idle speed? Also, have you checked to see if there are diagnostic trouble codes stored in the computer?

This vehicle has an OBD1 system that doesn't require a scan tool to retrieve codes. All you need is a short jumper wire or even a paper clip.

Here is a link that explains how to retrieve codes:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/buick-cadillac-chevy-gmc-oldsmobile-pontiac-gm-1983-1995-obd1-code-definitions-and-retrieval-method

Try this and let me know the results. Also, let me know if you have checked for engine vacuum leaks. Additionally, confirm there is nothing binding on the throttle cable preventing the throttle plate from fully closing. See pics below

Let me know what you find.

Take care,

joe

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Friday, June 2nd, 2023 AT 8:18 PM
Tiny
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Yes, did the trouble codes gave a code of 34 which was the IAC replaced that did not fix the problem. Have checked the cable that seems to be good no vacuum leaks. Also, there are times when the car is idle high that it seems to just drive on its own without anyone pushing on the gas.
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Friday, June 2nd, 2023 AT 9:51 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

Code 34 is related to the manifold absolute pressure sensor (MAP). That could be causing the issue.

I attached the diagnostics below for code 34. Take a look through them and let me know if you are comfortable performing them.

Also, I attached a pic showing the location of the MAP.

Let me know what you find.

Take care,

joe

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Friday, June 2nd, 2023 AT 10:19 PM
Tiny
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Hi, I replaced the map sensor yesterday and still nothing has changed it's still idling high I am completely stumped as to the issue.
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Tuesday, June 13th, 2023 AT 5:11 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

Is the same code still present? If it is, are you comfortable performing the diagnostics above?

Also, this only happens in park or neutral. When you place it on gear, does it idle down or does the load on the engine simply slow it down? If you have it in gear and take your foot off the brake, does the car go on its own?

Let me know.

Joe
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Tuesday, June 13th, 2023 AT 7:51 PM
Tiny
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Ran codes again and getting no trouble codes at all. When it's in park and neutral the idle is high and when it's in gear it seems like it's idle is normal but it's not and yes when I take foot of pedal the car does go on its own.
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Tuesday, June 13th, 2023 AT 8:14 PM
Tiny
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Hi,

Okay, if you haven't already, check and confirm there are no engine vacuum leaks.

Here is a link that explains how this is done:.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-use-an-engine-vacuum-gauge

If there are no leaks, take a look at the directions for idle speed adjustment. Since you already replaced the IAC, follow the directions where it discusses relearning the IAC. It starts with the number 6 toward the end of the pics.

Let me know.

Joe

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Tuesday, June 13th, 2023 AT 8:36 PM

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