Fuel injector wiring diagram needed

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Hi Ron,

Thanks so much for bringing us up to date! I'm glad the instrument cluster seems to be behaving a little better now.

Looking over your scanner results, it seems like there's still a CAN communication error of some sort.

It looks like there are a couple of CAN connectors in the left front doorsill. I wonder if moisture has gotten in there and caused some possible corrosion? I know you've checked the grounds nearby those locations, but it might be worth it to take a quick look at these connectors as well. I've attached photos below of the connector locations.

Are there any aftermarket electrical parts installed on the vehicle? I've seen an aftermarket replacement taillight that caused drivability issues and caused the vehicle to drop into "limp mode". The aftermarket taillight was interfering with the CAN communication somehow and once we installed an OEM taillight the issues cleared up immediately.

Is the battery testing out good now that you have the charging system back up and running?

Thanks, Wendy W.
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Wednesday, March 23rd, 2022 AT 7:50 AM
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Wendy,

If you look at the ground terminals, the one on the driver's side is not as clean as the passengers. I will check the connections. FYI, removing the carpeted floorboard on the driver's side requires patience and strength.
Would the CAN problems cause a 0201 or misfire in cylinder 1. The wiring checks out as good.
Thanks again,

Ron Chaves
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Friday, March 25th, 2022 AT 2:31 PM
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Hi Ron,

If the CAN system is experiencing communication errors, it could cause the signal to activate the injector to be blocked.

Have you tried clearing all the codes since you've installed the new alternator?

Thanks, Wendy W.
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Saturday, March 26th, 2022 AT 8:51 PM
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Hello once again,

I cleared the codes and the previous email shows the fault codes after changing the alternator. One major difference is that "low voltage supply" only shows in two places.

This afternoon I began looking at the CAN connections that you so kindly shared.
I've attached images of what I've seen so far.
The picture with the green wires, are connections I've cleaned with electrical contact cleaner. That CAN is X30/5.
CAN X30/7 shows green corrosion.
Do you have the wiring diagram of X30/5 and how to disconnect the connections? I am fearful of breaking a connection. Are there any instructions or videos on how to clean the connectors?

Thanks,
Ron
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Sunday, March 27th, 2022 AT 5:05 PM
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Good evening, Ron,

Thank you very much for attaching the fault codes from your earlier test. I did look through them carefully, which is what made me wonder whether there could be an issue within the CAN system since there were codes for several different components. I just wanted to verify that these were "fresh" codes since the alternator replacement. Thanks for clarifying that for me.

I've attached schematics for the CAN system wiring in the door sill area.

I'll try to find an answer for you regarding how to disengage the connectors, but at first glance, it seems like the tab I circled in red may need to be pushed either up or down with a small pick. I haven't verified this yet, so please use care if you decide to try this.

Also, it's always a good idea to make sure the battery is disconnected when working on any part of the electrical system. The CAN system is especially sensitive to electrostatic discharge.

I'll keep working on trying to get you some more information, but I wanted to share what I could for now.

Thanks, Wendy W.
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Sunday, March 27th, 2022 AT 7:12 PM
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Wendy,

I may have created a problem as I disconnected, cleaned and re-connected the green wires in section X30/7 without disconnecting the battery.

The battery is disconnected and I'm working on X30/5, which is the CAN closest to the kick pad or front.

I disconnected two of the eight and that's where I saw corrosion. The problem is that I can't get them back on and I cracked part of the plastic on one.

There has to be a secret to working with or cleaning the connectors. I thought that instead of disconnecting the remaining five I'd just flood the connectors with electronic cleaner and wiggle them when I did. But now I can't get the two that are off back on!

Thanks so much for your input.

Ron
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Monday, March 28th, 2022 AT 12:16 PM
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Wendy,
I was down on my knees with lights, my iPhone, even a Nikon trying to take pictures and make sense of what I was looking at.
Finally, I had an AHA moment as I researched the definition of a BUS and began looking for pictures. I realized that the strip was the bus and that the bus could be detached, making it easier to take pictures.
So, I was able to disconnect the bus from the side and took pictures. I saw the telltale sign of corrosion in the form of green specks under the bus.
I still don't know how to disconnect the connector from the bus. Perhaps I need to spend some time praying while on my knees!
Attached are pictures of the bus from the internet and from pictures I took.

Thanks,
Ron
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Monday, March 28th, 2022 AT 7:16 PM
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Hello!

Thank you so much for sending all the photos, they were very helpful!

The plastic piece that broke appears to be a Tyco socket housing, which can be found online. If you enter the part number "0305452828" and "Mercedes" in an online search engine you should be able to find it for sale for less than $10.

Then if you search for "remove Tyco pins" on YouTube, there are a few videos that show how to lift the release tab and slide out the terminals so you can reinstall them in the new socket housing. You'll likely need a small pick or automotive terminal tool, which can be found in auto parts stores or online relatively inexpensively.

To remove the smaller socket housings from the larger cable shoe (part number 0025467940) it seems like you'll need to first release the two tabs on each end with a small flat-blade screwdriver (indicated with the red arrows in the picture below). Then carefully slide the cover off by inserting the screwdriver in the area marked with green highlighting. Once the cover is off, each socket housing should be able to come out individually.

Please let me know how it goes.

Thanks, Wendy W.
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Tuesday, March 29th, 2022 AT 7:59 AM
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Wendy,

I am successfully taking the bus apart. There is corrosion.

However, I have another question that came up after I made a dumb move.
I closed the trunk lid. After the battery was disconnected. The key has been lost.
Is there anywhere that I can connect 12 volts or a point of + and supply power to open the trunk?
If need be, I can take the back seat out and cut a hole to access the locking mechanism.
From a dummy,
Thanks
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Tuesday, March 29th, 2022 AT 11:13 AM
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Wendy,

My jumper cables were in another car, but I had another 12-v battery and connected a charger to the terminals. Then I used my alligator clips and put one to ground and one to the terminal with the fuses. The terminal in back. After a few minutes everything woke up and I opened the trunk.
From a Smarty,
Thanks for reading.
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Tuesday, March 29th, 2022 AT 5:21 PM
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Hello!

I'm glad you were able to find a way to open the trunk and that you're having success with the CAN bus connectors as well. Please keep us posted!

Thanks, Wendy W.
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Wednesday, March 30th, 2022 AT 5:53 AM
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Wendy,

The test often refers to CAN problems with A1. In researching it appears the A1 is on CAN X30/6. If that is correct, where is the CAN located? I saw pictures of its location on a 2002 but not a 2004. I looks like it's located above the brake pedal.

Thanks,
Ron
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Thursday, March 31st, 2022 AT 3:17 PM
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Hi Ron,

It looks like the X30/6 connector (cockpit voltage distributor) is located in the right front footwell. I've attached photos to show the location.

Thanks for keeping us updated! Wendy W.
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Thursday, March 31st, 2022 AT 3:43 PM
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Hello again Ron,

I've attached a diagram that shows the basic bus structure for this vehicle, along with the schematics for the X30/6 circuits.

I noticed that the right voltage distributor circuit (X30/4) communicates with the instrument cluster so I've also attached that schematic, along with the location of the X30/4 connector in case you wanted to check that as well.

I wouldn't necessarily expect to see much corrosion at the X30/4 connector because it isn't in the door sill area like the other circuits where you've been noticing the corrosion. It's possible that the connector has come loose somehow. It may be worth a look.

I hope this additional information helps.

Thanks, Wendy W.
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