ABS light on/off frequently

Tiny
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  • 2009 DODGE AVENGER
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ABS light on/off frequently, has changed the sensors F/R, replaced the pump (used on) but the problem hasn't changed, standard ABS pump for vehicle listed above, 2 liter diesel engine manual transmission system, shape of the unit (small cylinder metal shaped sitting on rectangular plastic box).
Tuesday, November 5th, 2019 AT 9:16 AM

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Tiny
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Hi:

Have you tried pulling diagnostic trouble codes? It sounds like you may have a wheel speed sensor that is out. These videos will help us find the problem.

https://youtu.be/rTtAnsOlZU4

and

https://youtu.be/Pb6nXV-iamI

and

https://youtu.be/ANWVTh2RQoQ

Please run down these guides and report back. Let me know. Joe
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Wednesday, November 6th, 2019 AT 7:24 PM
Tiny
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Hi, I don't have the codes, already changed the 4 wheels sensors and the ABS pump ie (used one), but can't get the lights out, I mean (off) on the dashboard. I regret the whole thing and the cost, but it is too late, I did not realize the depth of the cost and problem.
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Friday, November 8th, 2019 AT 3:58 PM
Tiny
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Hi:

I want to try one last thing. And please understand, without codes, it is a hit and miss.

Disconnect the negative battery terminal and then the positive. Connect the two terminals together and using a plastic zip tie, joint them together. Allow the cables to stay together for about 15 minutes. During that time, all power will be drained from any capacitors that may be keeping the memory alive. If the light is still on, you will need to run it until diagnostic codes return. I say that with the assumption that it is only the light being on and the brakes are working properly.

Try that and let me know what happens.

Take care,
Joe
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Friday, November 8th, 2019 AT 7:12 PM
Tiny
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Hi there,
I have changed the 4X sensors, and the ABS pump (used unit), but I have new problems, 1-the hand brake light, and 2-engine light stays on, 3- issue, the tachometer is not working, so don't know what happened after changing the ABS pump,
Also to reach the battery terminals is difficult in this car as it's located under the front arches of the car, very unusual place to reach it, must remove the front wheel passenger side in UK cars, and the plastic cover, then to lose the metal frame nuts and bolts, to reach the battery, very small area for movement because of the brakes system parts on the way, you need to work side ways to get to it, so it is not easy for me to do it, I have to see the local mechanic man for it, I am getting very concerned about the cost, already has been over  300+ parts over 100, nearly lost to count the total, all that plus service costs for A MOT ticket, but I am going to gamble on a diagnostic test as last effort to solve the problem, but possibly in few weeks, as I have my work car to use, will let you know soon, later on.
Thank you for your advice.
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Saturday, November 9th, 2019 AT 10:49 AM
Tiny
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Hi:

Let me know what is found. Did you try the battery trick I suggested?

Joe
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Saturday, November 9th, 2019 AT 9:54 PM
Tiny
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Not yet, as I explained, the battery terminals are under the front wing, it's difficult to reach in this car, you need to remove the wheel and the plastic shield and the battery housing to get to battery terminals, a bit of struggle for me to do it, with my age being 69 at the present time. The battery is not on the top of the engine bay like the other cars. But since changed the ABS pump, the hand brake and the engine lights stay on on the dashboard and the speedometer is not showing any movement. Need a deeper inspection to solve the problem. I was told the ABS pump is sticky, so I changed it with a used unit. Not much progress at the present time. Let you know later.
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Sunday, November 10th, 2019 AT 12:55 AM
Tiny
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Hi again:

I just realized what you meant before. Sorry about that. I have no idea whose idea it was to put the battery behind the inner fender. I know exactly what you mean now.

I will watch to see what you find. I'm interested in knowing.

Take care,
Joe
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Sunday, November 10th, 2019 AT 7:57 PM
Tiny
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Hi there, Just pass more information about the situation, since I changed the ABS pump, I have more issues with the car, A. Engine warning light and B. ABS light and C. Hand brake light are on "constantly". Also the speed rev counter doesn't function anymore.
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Monday, November 11th, 2019 AT 6:55 AM
Tiny
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Did you try to pull diagnostic trouble codes? If this all happened since the work, recheck to make sure no wires were pinched or damaged. Also, did you check the fuses related to the ABS?

I believe the hand brake light is an additional warning to the ABS.

Let me know about codes if you get them.
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Monday, November 11th, 2019 AT 6:37 PM

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