Misfire and backfire

Tiny
PEANUT3419
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  • 1999 GMC SIERRA
My truck had a large vacuum leak causing it to miss and I fixed that and it ran fine for a couple days now its missing worse than before and it is backfiring I think it might be the ignition coil that is going bad and I took it to the auto parts store and they put the computer on it and it said that but it wont say what cylinder its on it just lists letters and in the repair manual it only gives numbers for the cylinders can yall help me out because the auto store wants me to replace all 8 and thats really expensive when its just one or two thats bad
Saturday, June 13th, 2009 AT 9:32 PM

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Tiny
RASMATAZ
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Misfires can be caused by worn or fouled spark plugs, a weak spark (weak coil, bad spark plug wire), loss of compression, vacuum leaks, anything that causes an unusually lean fuel mixture (lean misfire), an EGR valve that is stuck open, dirty fuel injectors, low fuel pressure, or even bad fuel.

Dirty fuel injectors (cleaning the injectors often fixes this).
Bad MAP (manifold absolute pressure) sensor
Bad TPS (throttle position) sensor
Bad or dirty MAF (mass airflow) sensor
Low fuel pressure (leaky fuel pressure regulator or weak fuel pump)
Vacuum leaks (intake manifold, vacuum hoses, throttle body, EGR valve)
Bad gasoline (fuel contaminated with water or too much alcohol)

Sometimes, what feels like a hesitation is actually ignition misfire rather than lean misfire. The causes of ignition misfire may include:

Dirty or worn spark plugs
Bad plug wires
Weak ignition coil
Wet plug wires
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Monday, June 15th, 2009 AT 6:16 PM
Tiny
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2-4-6-8 bank shows 180° at exhaust manifold via non contact thermometer
1-3-5-7 bank shows 380° at exhaust manifold via non contact thermometer

Constant and consistent backfire in exhaust, seems to be mostly on the cold side.

Rough idle

Low power load/no load

New fuel pressure regulator, plugs, wires, cap, rotor, coil and upper intake gasket.

Known water leak from lower intake manifold, also on 2-4-6-8 bank side.
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Sunday, June 30th, 2019 AT 9:54 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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This could be simple if this has a throttle body with two fuel injectors. If so, then the one fuel injector that feeds 2468 isn't working. Check for voltage to the fuel injectors with the key on run/engine off. Check for a pulse with a noid light while cranking the engine. Last but not least ohm the injectors to find out if one is bad.
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Sunday, June 30th, 2019 AT 9:54 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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It is a Vortec engine, has eight injectors and no throttle body.
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Sunday, June 30th, 2019 AT 9:54 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Update on the rig:

Not plugged catalytic converters, took those out and backfire through exhaust continued, as well as low power.

Injectors are definitely leaking down way too fast, gas smell at the front of the rig.

Bad O2's?

Certainly bad injectors, would that cause an over fueled backfire?

Distributor lost a tooth or two, maybe shifted and timing is off causing backfire?

Lost 1/4 of the camshaft, as in every exhaust lobe on one bank?

Broken every one of the exhaust valve springs on the head?

I reckon it's time to open the valve covers and watch what's going on?
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Sunday, June 30th, 2019 AT 9:54 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Do a compression test. Check the fuel pressure regulator. It may be blown, dumping fuel.
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Sunday, June 30th, 2019 AT 9:54 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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And the answer is. Distributor.
Changed the pressure regulator early on.
Several teeth on the gear were sharp enough to cut a fella, the others looked like normal wear. Looked again at the cap I took off (a year and 12k after I got the rig) and the rotor had been hitting the posts in an abnormal spot. Plastic parts went bad in the distributor and let it wobble around in the shaft.
In the end the rig got a full on tune up and lost a couple of cats and I'm half way to fixin the hard start that lots big blocks have, only injectors left to go. It runs correctly for now, so I haven't cared enough to check the side to side temp difference.
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Sunday, June 30th, 2019 AT 9:54 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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This truck roans great when you start out but if you drive 40 miles it more it moves real slow then the engine light will come on at cold start will back fire when you push on the gas weather moving or sitting still
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Sunday, June 30th, 2019 AT 9:54 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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How long since a tune-up? Any applicable trouble codes? Your obd1, you should be able to check codes, yourself. To check codes, you use a jumper wire between the A & B terminals at the dalalink connector. Turn key just till the dash lites come on, no further. The mil on the dash starts flashing, you count the flashes to get the codes. Your looking for two digit codes.

If the vehicle acts up under load, it is usually a restriction of some kind, whether air--fuel--exhaust, something of that nature.
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Sunday, June 30th, 2019 AT 9:54 AM (Merged)
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KEN L
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Glad you could get it fixed, that kind of problem can be tough. Please use 2CarPros anytime we are here to help.
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Sunday, June 30th, 2019 AT 9:54 AM (Merged)
Tiny
DLBLAIR
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Engine Performance problem V8 Four Wheel Drive Automatic 200000 miles

My Z71 is backfiring through the exhaust and missing at mid range RPM. I have changed the plugs, wires, cap and rotor also cleaned the EGR system and installed a new temp switch all with no results. There is a 20 amp fuse in the box under the hood that is listed as Engine that blows every-time I put a new one in - could that be related to the problem? Anyone know what that fuse goes to? It is not a ECM fuse.
Thanks for any help you can give!
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Sunday, June 30th, 2019 AT 9:54 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Hello,

Check out this guide

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/engine-backfires-while-running

Here is what someone said

Locate the crankshaft timing marks, most engines timing marks are at the front of the engine on the harmonic balancer. Near the balancer there is a small pointer or scale to align the balancer mark too. When the engine is running this gauge or pointer should align with the mark on the balancer. When the engine is running the timing light will strobe and illuminate the balancer mark as it spins. To adjust the timing loosen the distributor and turn slightly one way or the other to achieve the desired setting. Once an adjustment has been made re-tighten the distributor hold down bolt or bolts.

Exhaust systems have an air injection system designed to help the complete consumption of exhaust gasses. This added air is only in operation during power mode. If the air injection check valve or sometime referred to as a "gulp valve" fails it can allow extra air into the exhaust system causing system internal and external backfiring. To check your systems valve remove it and blow in ti both ways to check air flow. Air should only travel one direction hence the name: "check valve". If air travels both directions the valve has failed and needs replacement, this is a common problem.
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Sunday, June 30th, 2019 AT 9:54 AM (Merged)
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GARYLEE STIFFLER
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Was driving my truck and it just died. I putt a new new fuel pump, plugs, distributor, crank sensor, timing chain, new cap and rotor still backfires through exhaust. Once further checking from a professional It was the ecm. We replaced it and it fixed the problem.
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Sunday, June 30th, 2019 AT 9:54 AM (Merged)
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KEN L
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Good to hear, please use 2Carpros anytime

Best, Ken
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Sunday, June 30th, 2019 AT 9:54 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Spit back when starting now it starts revs around 3000 then stalls can feather gas to keep. Keep running?
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Sunday, June 30th, 2019 AT 9:54 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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What repairs were done?

Sounds like a vacuum leak. Make sure all hoses are attached and not cracked. Otherwise it may be an idle air control valve failure

Roy
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Sunday, June 30th, 2019 AT 9:54 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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Engine backfire misfire what the problem I need a answer
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Sunday, June 30th, 2019 AT 9:54 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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That's what you pay mechanics to figure out. They get to listen to the engine, look at it, and make tests. We can't do any of that. All we can do is decipher the information you give us, and you haven't provided any.
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