Turned key half heartedly

Tiny
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I suffer from severe OCD so bare with my curiosity.
I turned my key in the ignition about half way and then I put it back in accessory not starting the car. Don't ask why, but in the second that my car was trying to turn over and I didn't start it: What damage was done if any? How much gas was used?

These things keep me up at night. Sorry to ask weird questions. I appreciate you guys a lot.
Thursday, September 5th, 2019 AT 3:37 PM

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Tiny
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No damage was done. If you were able to do damage by what you did with the ignition switch, that would affect a lot of people. To say that a different way, there would have to be a warning label somewhere telling you to not do that, along with the hundreds of other similar things you could do.

When you turn the ignition switch to the "run" position, the Engine Computer runs the fuel pump for one to two seconds. You can usually hear the hum in the back. Fuel pressure should hold for days or weeks, but they do that to insure fuel pressure is up high enough for the engine to start and run, in case it did happen to bleed down. After that, the fuel pump only runs when the engine is rotating, (cranking or running). That's a safety feature in case a fuel line gets ruptured in a crash. If the pump were to continue running, it would dump raw gas onto the ground where it would be a serious fire hazard. Instead, with the broken fuel line, there can't be any pressure in it. With no pressure, no gas will spray from the injectors, the engine can't run, and by two sensors, the computer will know the engine isn't rotating, so it will turn the fuel pump off.

The fuel pump actually moves a pretty large volume of gas, as in a gallon or more per minute. Almost all of that gas goes through the fuel pressure regulator, then right back into the tank. When the engine is running, a very small percentage of that gas is tapped off to go through the injectors, into the engine, to be burned.

To answer your second question, when you turn the ignition switch on but the engine is not running or cranking, if it is warm, or if outside air temperature is reasonably warm, no gas sprays from the injectors. If the engine and / or air temperature is cold, a small amount sprays for a priming squirt to make the engine start faster, with less cranking. The amount of gas sprayed depends on temperature, but it's still very small. It would probably take a dozen switch cycles to fill a teaspoon. You can't actually do that however. The computer will know it has just injected a priming pulse the first time you turned the ignition switch on, so it won't do it again for any subsequent events.

As a point of interest, Chrysler made reading diagnostic fault codes much easier than any other manufacturer. It is done by cycling the ignition switch from "off" to "run" three times within five seconds, without cranking the engine. Leave it in "run", then watch the fault code numbers appear in the odometer display. On most car models, if you think you may have misread or missed one of the code numbers, you just turn the ignition switch off, then right back on again, and the codes will repeat. As for those priming pulses, if fuel sprayed from the injectors each time you turned the switch on, that excessive raw fuel would wash down the cylinder walls as well as flood the engine. The engineers designed the system to not do that.

At most, by cycling the ignition switch to "run" one time, enough gas sprayed from the injectors to make your fingers wet and stinky.
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Thursday, September 5th, 2019 AT 6:06 PM
Tiny
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CARADIODOC,
I think maybe you misunderstood? I didn't mean I put it in run position, I mean I actually turned to crank it for about half a second. Like literally turned to crank to start, then released. Does that make sense? I just did this same accidentally on a Cruiser. I apparently have nothing between my ears lmao.
I literally turned the key to crank for about half a second accidentally, did I mess anything up? Thanks
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Wednesday, October 30th, 2019 AT 9:50 PM
Tiny
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You had to go through the "run" position to get to the "crank" position, but the answer is the same. Nothing was damaged. The only thing you might want to keep in mind is by around 1996 or so, Chrysler incorporated into their Engine Computer's software a provision that only lets you turn the ignition switch to "crank" three times without fully starting the engine. The fourth time it will not turn on the starter relay. I've never had anyone ask what it takes to get it to crank again, but I assume it is just a matter of waiting a short period of time to let the software time-out. This software programming is related to the computer not allowing the starter to engage once the engine is running, if you turn the ignition switch to "crank" during that time. That prevents potential damage to the starter's drive gear if you were to intentionally do that repeatedly.
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Thursday, October 31st, 2019 AT 5:09 PM
Tiny
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I know you have to go through run but I didn't know if you realized I had actually begun to turn it over. Thank you
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Thursday, October 31st, 2019 AT 7:30 PM
Tiny
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In short, no. Briefly turning the key to the start position will not cause any damage to the vehicle. You want to avoid turning it to start while the engine is running though as this will cause damage to the starter and flexplate teeth.
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Sunday, November 3rd, 2019 AT 7:43 PM

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