Mechanics

TURBO BREAKDOWN IS IT POSSIBLE?

1998 SAAB 9-5

Engine Mechanical problem
1998 Saab 9-5 4 cyl Front Wheel Drive Automatic 140000 miles

Hey guys just wanted to ask you guys a question and hope there is someone who can give me an answer.

I am one of those people who doesnt trust mechanics 100%. I mean they can rip you off if they see you dont know the stuff. So here is the story

I bought this saab 9-5 (98 model with 140.000 kms) and it was all good till about a month ago. First I had this oil lamp blinking sometimes, I first tought its oil level then I checked and it was ok. Then I changed the oil and oil filter and went for a drive when I heard some noise from the engine. Sounded like something was scratching of something and I felt its loosing the power. It was just a short drive around the block, a few streets. And when I came back and stopped I saw a big cloud of smoke behind me, I thought the car was on fire and I jumped out. I started the engine a couple of times after that when a friend came to check it but I wasnt driving it.

So I brought it to a mechanic with a tow-truck and he said the turbo was gone. He wanted 1700AU$ for a new turbo and another 500AU$ to change it. I bought it from England for 700$AU and when he changed it he called me saying I have a problem with the engine, I need to change timing belt or something something is broken some broken screws are inside. And when turbo exploded a lot of it went into the exhaust I might need to change the exhaust as well. And he says its gonna cost me another 2000 AU$ at least coz its a big job he needs to take the engine out.

So just wandering if u guys think this is possible, that it just breaks that much so suddenly or he just see that he can get some more money.

Im sorry if my English wasn't perfect or if it was to long but think im just gonna feel better if I make sure im not paying for something I shouldn't.

Thanks
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ShonEPFC
November 9, 2009.



HEY what's up, if your car is a 4cyl, then the eng has a timing chain not belt, very rear for chain to come apart on this vehicle, but if so there is no need to take eng out, just remove & loosen all engine mounts & push engine to trans side slightly & remove timing chain cover to replace & correct timing, let him take oil pan off first & check for metal particles plus clean oil pickup screen, as per exhaust just remove cataliytic convertor & shake out any loose parts if any & refit, also let him check your eng conrod & main bearings while he's there.

Mnthny4
Nov 9, 2009.
The " Turbo Charger" can bomb out on you if the previous owner used it very frequently or especially if the Turbo" was frequently abused. If your " Turbo" was gone it would not cause heavy smoke ! It's sounds to me that your head gasket is gone. It has a crack in it and water is getting into the cylinders creating a " steam like" look in the air like smoke. Also 140,000 km or 86992 miles is not much at all for a SAAB. That is considered just " broken in" over here in the U.S.
You have a timing " CHAIN" guided by two " sprocket" wheels. You do not have a timing " BELT".

You mentioned he called you saying you have a problem with the engine, He need to change timing belt or something something is broken some broken screws are inside. And when turbo exploded a lot of it went into the exhaust I might need to change the exhaust as well.
I hope I am " WRONG" but something does not seem " RIGHT" to me. I think he may be taking advantage of you and your $$$$$$$.
Did he mention anything to you about needing rotor's and brakes after he replaced the CV joint? Do you know what I am trying to say ShonEPFC?
I would find another mechanic if I were you before he cleans out you bank account.
Good Luck; Rick

Tiny
RickMar
Nov 12, 2009.
Hey people thanks for ur answers. Well im not sure if it was only gasket because the car didnt have any power, and I bought turbo, I marked it and im gonna check it ( anyone knows is it visible from under the car, do I have to take off anything) And yeah he said that chain went off, and caused some more damage. I dont really know much about cars so I didnt exactly know what he was talking about, thats why I came here. Anyway when I rang him and said what mnthny4, he said that there are two chains or belts that need replacement, and its very hard to change them if he dont take the engine out. And yeah he said how he knows that he can clean up an exhaust but he needs to take it off and bla bla bla. Ill see what im gonna do but he has probably already started working on it.

Tiny
ShonEPFC
Nov 15, 2009.
Good luck, but sorry to say your mechanic does not work on saab alot, this is why he is saying he needs to take engine out to do repairs, just let him know that there is no need to take cyl head off to remove timing cover, but when refitting he will need to apply silicone to both upper corners to prevent oil leak after startup, again good luck.

Mnthny4
Nov 16, 2009.
When he told you > > > > there are two chains or belts that need replacement, and its very hard to change them if he don't " take the engine out" < < < < < ShonEPFC.I " strongly" feel from what he said to you this " mechanic" is trying to take as much as he can of your money. The engine absolutely do not need to remove the engine to replace the timing chain/chains. You " ARE" paying for something you shouldn't.

The next rediculous thing he would probably say to you is that you need a new radiator and brakes.
Good Luck; Rick

Tiny
RickMar
Nov 16, 2009.