Possibly Spider gears

Tiny
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  • 2005 DODGE DAKOTA
  • 4.7L
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  • 4WD
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  • 162,000 MILES
When I make turns left or right it sounds/feels like my back tires lock up and drag but once I get going straight it's fine. I only finished driving it home been parked for a few days. Now had a rebuilt transmission installed about 5 months ago front end has new calipers, rotors and pads for previous issue about a year ago that it end up being the passenger wheel hub, which I also replace. I open the drain plug on the rear differential hoping maybe it would be as simple as low or old fluids, but it was up to the plug and a nice almost clear orange looked almost new to me. I know it might be the spider gears but am on a budget I don't want to open the differential and have to refill the fluids and additive and new gasket if I don't have to. Anything else I can maybe consider doing before I take that step?
Saturday, January 23rd, 2021 AT 4:07 PM

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Tiny
STEVE W.
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The only way to know for sure is to open it up. You might get an idea if you got all 4 wheels off the ground and then tried "driving" it to see if it still acts up with the weight off but that won't really tell you much as you can't make the differential work. Same thing if you hold one side and then turn the other, it might show you if it was a brake issue but not much else. It could be a bad gear or the pin may be coming free. Either way I would open it. If you clean the exterior and are careful you could re-use the fluid. I wouldn't wait as at the moment you may be able to save the parts, if they bind a few more times it could easily destroy the differential or break the housing or even the case and then you end up replacing it all.
Keep in mind that being it is a 4X4 you could still drive it some even if you find damage, you would remove the cross pin and those two spider gears, then put the cross pin back in to keep the axles in place and you could drive it with the front axle engaged. Not the best solution but it would at least let you have a vehicle until you could do a proper repair.
From the description I would suspect either broken or missing teeth on one of more. Unless it has some type of locker that is failing.
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Sunday, January 24th, 2021 AT 1:51 AM
Tiny
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Thanks for the response Steve much appreciated. I was wondering if I'd be able to reuse the fluid or not? It's actually fairly clean so that definitely crossed my mind as far as I know there's no locker but it is an anti slip differential. I'm curious about the fluid looking so new as I've had the truck about a year now and it has a little over 160,000 miles. The dealer may have swapped it out. I don't think the transmission shop would've without mentioning/charging me for it but if I do decide to put new fluid in it I'd at least know it has the limited slip additive in it. Honestly at this point I'm just stalling because of the weather here in Indiana and having to do it in the parking lot of my apartment. Once I open it up and take a look I'll let you know if I have any further questions.
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Sunday, January 24th, 2021 AT 8:18 AM
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STEVE W.
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As long as it looks good you can re-use it, if it turns out that there is metal in it then I'd probably opt for new. Take some pictures and post them on here once you're into it. It could be binding in the differential as well if it has an LSD but until it's open you can't really tell.
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Sunday, January 24th, 2021 AT 8:29 AM
Tiny
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Getting ready to finally open this differential but one thing I noticed is a lot of YouTube videos state that with a limited slip differential when I turn one rear tire the other will rotate the opposite direction but mine rotate the same direction. I tried it in N D and R does this mean it may have been replaced with an open differential? Because that will change the parts I need the book in the glove box clearly states it's an anti slip with 8.25 ratio. Thanks again for all the advice.
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Sunday, January 24th, 2021 AT 10:33 AM
Tiny
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I was actually just reading online and I see I had that backwards an open spins opposite directions and limited spins the same direction. It threw me off because I thought it was the other way around.
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Sunday, January 24th, 2021 AT 11:37 AM
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STEVE W.
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LSD should spin the same direction, an open differential will spin in opposite directions if you turn one tire. The factory LSD in them is a clutch type, basically works using spring pressure and a couple parts that look like saw teeth. Those are the ramps that squeeze the clutches if one side starts to slip.
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Sunday, January 24th, 2021 AT 1:15 PM

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