Voyager Transmission Problem

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1992 Plymouth Grand Voyager LE, 3.3L, V6, 275,000, automatic 4-speed trans w/OD. Don't know all the repairs on it, but the engine runs absolutely fine.

*Correction, I was wrong, it gets to third and downshifts to second, if turned off, back on and put into low gear it'll shift to second and downshift back to first, but no further then second gear....*

When i start the car transmission works fine in reverse and once in OD transmission will go through the gears to fourth, once in 4th it slips to 3rd and won't downshift or upshift at all until put in park and turned off. Then when i put it in drive again it only fixes for about 30 seconds and slips again.

Taking it to a mech soon, but there aren't many honest around here and I've never worked on transmissions. Any help before i got, is it s sensor, is it common, or is it the trans, i can't spend that money like that right now lol.
Oct 15, 2007 at 12:06 AM
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What I had experienced with ply transmissions they have like a black box built on the side of the tranny and these go bad
You can check that
Good luck
Oct 15, 2007 at 5:36 PM
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Thanks, i'm going to check it tomorrow, have a mech check it, i'll repost what they say see if it's reliable.
Oct 15, 2007 at 10:28 PM
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[quote:1ed46292de="Cinful"]Thanks, i'm going to check it tomorrow, have a mech check it, i'll repost what they say see if it's reliable.[/quote:1ed46292de]

good luck let us know
Oct 16, 2007 at 5:41 PM
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Unfortunatly I found out the problem, diagnostic puts out a code 36 & 46, the transmission ,ust be rebuilt. Immediatly after 3rd and 4th it fails and drops down.
Oct 17, 2007 at 1:45 AM
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[quote:6e8a1b710a="Cinful"]Unfortunatly I found out the problem, diagnostic puts out a code 36 & 46, the transmission ,ust be rebuilt. Immediatly after 3rd and 4th it fails and drops down.[/quote:6e8a1b710a]

good luck and thank you
Oct 17, 2007 at 8:43 PM
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So i got a haynes manual, because I was going to attempt to change out the transmission myself, now I remember the codes the guy told me and said "yup needs to be rebuilt."

These are the codes I think, i'm going to have someone else recheck and make sure, I'll repost tomorrow if i got them wrong. But from what I am reading you were right, Fault Code 63 is in the EEPROM located by the Powertrain Control Module.

Please let me know if any of this means I would actually need the transmission rebuilt....

37 Open or shorted condition detected in the torque converter part throttle unlock solenoid circuit

46 Battery voltage sense imput aboce target charging voltage during engine operation.

53 Internal engine controller fault condition detected.

63 Unsuccessful attempt to write to an EEPROM location by the controller.

*EDIT* Just got this from a really nice site...
Loosing Overdrive or Third


Believe it or not, this is a sign of good design. Rather than having the engine shut down completely, Chrysler designed a "limp home mode" which causes the transmission to only use first and second, as a very visible sign that something is wrong. The immediate reaction should be checking the computer for error codes and changing the transmission fluid. If that fails, it could be a sensor problem or an internal problem. Suggestion is usually to chnage the fluid and filter (maybe flush the fluid too) and make sure that you use the correct amount of the appropriate chrysler fluid - DO NOT USE ANYONE ELSE'S FLUID!


*ANOTHER SAID*
[If the transmission fails after takeoff, check] the electrical terminal that bolts into the computer housing that is mounted on the transmission. This is an electrical terminal and it bolts on to the computer box that is below the radiator fan and mounted on the transmission. Because of the poor design of this terminal it becomes a well and holds water. This happend to me on my 1992 3.3 Voyager. The transmission would not change gears without turning off the ignition to reset the computer. I used air to blow it out and the problem was solved. [I discovered it when replacing the sensors based on the advice on your site.] Webmaster note: Chrysler integrated their engine and transmission computers later in the decade.

*I'm going to find out and post what happens, because if there are any others like me I'm sure they'd like to know these cheap fixes rather then rebuilding the transmission for no reason*
Oct 18, 2007 at 9:09 PM
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