1997 Plymouth Voyager Engine Stalls

1997 PLYMOUTH VOYAGER
79,410 MILES • 6 CYL • FWD • AUTOMATIC
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Hello,

I just replaced the transmission in a 97 Plymouth Voyager, it ran fine before the tranny went out, it runs fine now, however when I went to test drive it I got about a half mile driving at less than 25mph to a stop light and it stalled, it started up after several tries about 5 minutes. I got out on the hwy and was excellerating and it stalled again and has done so since even while setting at idle. The tranny I got is used and it seems to work fine it changed gears from 1st to 2nd just haven't been able to drive it without it stalling to see if it changes to 3rd. And aslo the Radiator Cooling Fans won't come on and the temp reaches 221 degrees I shut the Vehicle off at that time to cool. I believe the fan problem is the relay I get code p1491.

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Mark Shreaves
May 8, 2008 at 2:42 PM
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have your egr valve looked at and cleaned or replace if necessary and have your engine coolant temperature sensor tested replaced. that should help with the over heating and egr should take care of the stalling problem. if egr valve doesnt help the stalling problem then, check the idle air control valve. but the code that you indicated is that your egr is mal functioning
May 9, 2008 at 10:07 PM
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[quote:1583f9446b="legitimate007"]have your egr valve looked at and cleaned or replace if necessary and have your engine coolant temperature sensor tested replaced. that should help with the over heating and egr should take care of the stalling problem. if egr valve doesnt help the stalling problem then, check the idle air control valve. but the code that you indicated is that your egr is mal functioning[/quote:1583f9446b]

Will check EGR Valve Idle Air Control Vavle... but every where I have looked and I like to double and triple check code defs because my scan tool is 2 years out of date. Anyway the code P1491 indicates "Radiator Fan Control Relay Circuit Open Or Shorted"

Thanks for the Help
May 10, 2008 at 7:36 PM
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check this out, according to our codes this is whats coming up:

https://www.2carpros.com/trouble_codes/trouble-code-P1400-P1499.htm
May 10, 2008 at 11:31 PM
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[quote:412d6d607a="legitimate007"]check this out, according to our codes this is whats coming up:

https://www.2carpros.com/trouble_codes/trouble-code-P1400-P1499.htm[/quote:412d6d607a]


Thanks, Will post results of EGR and Idle Air Control Valve tests.
May 11, 2008 at 5:45 AM
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the 1491 is a bad fan relay for the cooling fan problem
May 11, 2008 at 6:03 AM
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Well, EGR and IAC checked out fine.
More testing and have narrowed it down to either the Coil or the Control Mod.

does anyone know what the Specs are for the coil it's a Echlin IC105. Cannot seen to fine them.

Thanks
May 15, 2008 at 11:20 AM
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[quote:fa4a61631f="obxautomedic"]Well, EGR and IAC checked out fine.
More testing and have narrowed it down to either the Coil or the Control Mod.

does anyone know what the Specs are for the coil it's a Echlin IC105. Cannot seen to fine them.

Thanks[/quote:fa4a61631f]

Ok, I'm stumped.... This vehicle runs fine until heats up to normal opperating temp.... Then is dies... checked everything.....

Has No Spark when dies everything esle checks out...... Changed Coil since cannot find Specs.... Tested Control Mod.... appears to be good.... Hesitant on changing since have to purchase
Complete Distributor around $400.... No Codes

Any sugguestions

This is the 4th vehicle in 10 years that has stumped me....
May 17, 2008 at 7:41 AM
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change the crankshaft position sensor


https://images.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/139033_2carpros_1.jpg

May 17, 2008 at 8:41 AM
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OK, So just because the check or service engine light doesn't come on doesn't mean you don't have a sensor going bad.

I replaced the Crank Shaft Position Sensor and guess what it runs and runs and runs and runs.... No Stalling....

You learn something new every day in the Business.

Vehicle Fixed!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for everyone Help on this....
May 19, 2008 at 12:19 PM
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awesome!!! we have a great bunch of techs here. were confident in fixing cars and never give up. thanks for the donation and spread the word.
May 19, 2008 at 3:39 PM
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awesome , thats what im talkin about, good move tim
May 19, 2008 at 5:35 PM
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