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Car not starting after oil change

Tiny
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1999 Saturn SL-2 manual
When the oil was being changed, the person changing my oil hit the starter with his wrench causing a spark to appear. After he was done changing the oil, my car would not start, it would try and turn over but it would not start. It is not the starter because it would try and turn over. We pushed it down a hill to try and jump start it, but that failed as well, we eventually got it to start by pumping the gas a bit and messing with it to start. When we tried to start it, smoke came out of the exhaust. I have never had any issue with my saturn until the oil was changed the other day. I believe the computer was reset. I have new spark plugs and wires, the water pump is brand new. It is not the battery because my lights and radio worked fine. Any ideas?
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Sunday, June 24th, 2012 AT 11:34 PM

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Tiny
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So it will only start when you hold the gas pedal all the way to floor while cranking?Any codes in the computer?
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Sunday, June 24th, 2012 AT 11:38 PM
Tiny
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That is correct, and it is waiting for the mechanic to check it out in the morning. I am going to ask him to do the computer test first. I do not have a computer code tool or else I would do that myself.
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Sunday, June 24th, 2012 AT 11:40 PM
Tiny
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I started it later that evening after the engine had a chance to cool down and it did start however, there was stuff coming out of the exhaust. I started it four times in a row just to make sure, with 5 minute intervals and each time it started and it idled around 500-700 rpms.
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Sunday, June 24th, 2012 AT 11:47 PM
Tiny
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The starter is pretty far from the oil filter or oil drain plug I cant belive he did that. As far as what happened the only thing I could have seen happen was a blown fuse. It sounds like a bad coolant temp sensor from the symptoms pretty common on those cars.I own a 1999 saturn SL2 and iam on my 4th coolant temp sensor. Also inspect the inside of the connector if the terminals are blue or green instead of silver it needs a new connector. Most people over look the coolant temp sensor for a crank no start or doing what your car is doing. They end up. Replacing everything spending alot of money for nothing.
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Sunday, June 24th, 2012 AT 11:48 PM
Tiny
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So what should I tell the mechanic tomorrow when he looks at my car? I'm getting there right when the shop opens so I can see what he is doing.
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Sunday, June 24th, 2012 AT 11:59 PM
Tiny
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I am only cautious because I am not in my hometown and I normally work on my car with my friends' help who is a mechanic.
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Monday, June 25th, 2012 AT 12:05 AM
Tiny
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To check the coolant temp sensor you would hook a scan tool monitor live engine data watch coolant temp on the cars computer. Then let the engine warm up use a infared temp gun measuring the coolant temp where the upper radiator hose goes on the head. The coolant temp should be within 10 degrees of what the computer reads. Let the coolant temp run up to where the fan comes on about 222 degrees. Also inspect the inside of the coolant temp sensor connector like I mentioned early.
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Monday, June 25th, 2012 AT 2:34 AM
Tiny
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The mechanic should know how to do this correct? Thank you so much for your help, I'll let you know tomorrow when they are looking at it. Thank you
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Monday, June 25th, 2012 AT 2:38 AM
Tiny
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I sure hope he knows how to do that pretty simple. Keep me posted.
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Monday, June 25th, 2012 AT 2:56 AM
Tiny
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I'm still waiting for an exact answer but as of right now the mechanic thinks that out is the idle that needs to be relearned.
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Monday, June 25th, 2012 AT 5:26 PM
Tiny
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There is no idle relearn process for that car if the idle was off it wouldnt cause the smoking when starting and having to hold the gas pedal all the way to the floor. So how did the coolant temp sensor check out?
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Monday, June 25th, 2012 AT 6:59 PM
Tiny
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They havent checked it. I just called them again and they will call back within the hour after running it for a bit. This is ridiculous.
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Monday, June 25th, 2012 AT 7:11 PM
Tiny
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I told you the coolant temp sensor is usually over looked for starting stalling drivabilty etc problems.
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Monday, June 25th, 2012 AT 7:15 PM
Tiny
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I did tell him about that and even wrote down what you suggested. I'll find out soon hopefully. I leave tomorrow for my road trip.
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Monday, June 25th, 2012 AT 7:23 PM
Tiny
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Worse case you can always change the sensor yourself it doesnt take many tools sounds like you would have been better off just trying to replace the sensor yourself and see whats happens. He probably doesnt belive that sensor can make that happen.
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Monday, June 25th, 2012 AT 7:26 PM
Tiny
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Very true. I going to be headed there soon and make him check it.
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Monday, June 25th, 2012 AT 7:29 PM
Tiny
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Ok keep me posted.
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Monday, June 25th, 2012 AT 7:39 PM
Tiny
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They called me and said its done.$44 I'm going to check the sensor though before I head out. Thank you so so much for your help!
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Monday, June 25th, 2012 AT 7:50 PM
Tiny
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So what did they find wrong?Couldnt have been nuch for only 44. Did they ever check the coolant temp sensor?
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Monday, June 25th, 2012 AT 8:29 PM
Tiny
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It runs perfectly. I asked him about the sensor, he checked it and it was good. He said he had never seen anything like it before. Thank you again so much, I'm recommending this suite to anyone that has car issues.
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Monday, June 25th, 2012 AT 9:10 PM

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