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NEED TO START WITH KEY STUCK IN IGNITION '97

1997 Plymouth Voyager • 6 cylinder 2WD Automatic • 149,000 miles

I have a '97 Plymouth Voyager 3.0L. The key is stuck in the ignition (probably due to a bad key). The key will not allow the car to turn on, nor can you take it out. (But it moves a little in the ignition) I am selling the car, but I am trading it in out of town and I need to get it started once. Any ideas? Theoretically, I could short the leads on the starter solenoid, but it does not appear to have such a simple device.

How can I start this vehicle without the key? (Btw, I can turn the key enough to engage the fuel pump)
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Graysaturn99
August 22, 2011.




Not supposed to say how to bypass anything, because of safety issues. I can tell you to check the starter relay. Any testing, make sure the tranny is in park or neutral and a functional e-brake is set.

Because of your security system, even if you crank the starter, not sure it will start?


JDL
Aug 22, 2011.
Understood, thanks for the help. Fortunately, I can read at least some of this electrical chart.

Quick follow-up question.

When I tried to short out the leads at the ignition, there was a spark and then nothing. Is it possible I burnt up the 3A fuse at the junction box?


Tiny
Graysaturn99
Aug 22, 2011.
Are you talking about the ignition switch? In the diagram, I gave you, I don't see a three amp fuse? I'll look at ignition switch.


JDL
Aug 22, 2011.
Oh I am sorry. The junction box says 3a near it. I am trying to figure out what I may have broken. LOL I have not found any fuses with issues though. I unplugged the dual-wire connector from the ignition and shorted them out thinking that this would be enough to "trick the solenoid". It sparked once, and then that was all. No start.


Tiny
Graysaturn99
Aug 22, 2011.
In the diagram, I did finally see ptc 10--3amp, circuit breaker. Don't know if that is what your talking about? With the starter relay unplugged, terminal 30 is hot all the time. Terminal 86 goes hot with the key in the crank position. If that checks out, so far so good.


JDL
Aug 23, 2011.
I understand. I will reply back later today with news of whether this works or not. Thanks!


Tiny
Graysaturn99
Aug 23, 2011.
Let us know.


JDL
Aug 23, 2011.
Congratulations on giving good advice. Here is what I did.

1. Turn the key to the "On" position, but not quite to the "Start" because we could not get it that far.

2. I then found the starter relay (shown in picture) and shorted pins 1 and 2. This bypassed the relay allowing the starter to turn.

The van's starter is starting to fail, so it took a few tries, but it got there eventually. : ) I also had to make sure that the battery had power, because I cannot turn the key to the "Off" position.

Thanks JDL!
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Tiny
Graysaturn99
Aug 24, 2011.
Did the vehicle start and run? Jumping those pins isn't the correct fix. Hope it's going your way. Have a good day.


JDL
Aug 24, 2011.
Oh really? Yes, it ran perfectly! If it were not for the battery running down, we would just rig up two 14 gauge wires through the firewall to connect to pin sources 1 and 2 respectively and then connect them inside the car with a push button. Then we would have push button start. No security though. Lol


Tiny
Graysaturn99
Aug 25, 2011.

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