The brake pedal seems to go down pretty far almost to the floor

Tiny
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  • 1994 TOYOTA COROLLA
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  • 2WD
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On my 1994 Toyota Corolla 1.6L, when I step on the brake pedal to brake, the pedal seems to go down pretty far almost to the floor of the car. I don't know what would be the cause of that and is it something serious that I should worried about? My brake pads are pretty new and the brake fluid level is ok. Please advice. Thanks!
Wednesday, January 30th, 2013 AT 6:10 AM

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Tiny
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If you're not losing brake fluid, either the rear drum brakes are badly out of adjustment or there is internal leakage in the master cylinder. With internal leakage, the red warning light should be turning on.
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Monday, March 29th, 2021 AT 10:52 AM
Tiny
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Dear Caradiodoc,
Thanks for the answer. I asked couple other people, they told me that to replace brake master cylinder; but my red warning light does not turn on. So in your expert opinion, do you think they are right about the brake master cyliner? Thanks again.
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Monday, March 29th, 2021 AT 10:52 AM
Tiny
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There will always be two independent hydraulic circuits so you'll still have half of your brakes if there's a leak or failure in one part. There's a valve between those two circuits that normally stays centered. When a problem occurs in either circuit, fluid pressure can't build up to apply those two brakes. If the other circuit is working normally and it does build pressure, that valve trips and it turns on the switch that turns on the red warning light.

Each circuit feeds one rear brake and the opposite front one. If the rear brakes become out-of-adjustment, the pedal will have to be pushed further and further for those brakes to engage. That will affect both hydraulic circuits equally, and pressure in both circuits will be low, but as long as they're the same, that valve won't move and the light won't be turned on. That's why when you have a low pedal with no warning light, you should always start with the easy stuff. Check the rear brakes and be sure the automatic adjusters are working properly.

You can also have an internal leak in both halves of the master cylinder. It's rare for that to occur at the same time, and typically that will cause no brakes at all and the pedal will go all the way to the floor. In fact, you may still get some stopping power. The clue still would be there's no warning light turning on. If no other cause can be found for the low pedal, the master cylinder is the logical suspect.
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Monday, March 29th, 2021 AT 10:52 AM
Tiny
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Thanks a lot! I will have everything check to cover all bases.
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