Removing an oil pan

Tiny
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  • 2005 DODGE DAKOTA
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How do I remove an oil pan from a dakota 4.7L its loose but not coming off im afraid I damage it how do I remove it?
Tuesday, October 9th, 2012 AT 12:52 AM

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Tiny
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PAN-ENGINE OIL

REMOVAL

Disconnect the negative battery cable.

Install engine support fixture (1) special tool # 8534. Do not raise engine at this time.
Remove both left and right side engine mount through bolts.

Remove the structural dust cover.
Drain engine oil.

CAUTION: Only raise the engine enough to provide clearance for oil pan removal. Check for proper clearance at fan shroud to fan and cowl to intake manifold.

Raise engine using special tool (1) # 8534 to provide clearance to remove oil pan.

NOTE: On 4WD vehicles, the front axle must be lowered, to provide clearance for oil pan removal. It is not necessary to remove the front axle from the vehicle, or remove the axle shafts.

For 4WD Vehicles Remove the pinion bracket.
For 4WD Vehicles Disconnect the front driveshaft at the front axle.
For 4WD Vehicles Remove the front axle mounting bolts.
For 4WD Vehicles Lower axle using suitable jack enough to provide clearance to remove oil pan.

NOTE: Do not pry on oil pan or oil pan gasket. Gasket is integral to engine windage tray and does not come out with oil pan.

Remove the oil pan mounting bolts and oil pan.
Unbolt oil pump pickup tube and remove tube.
Inspect the integral windage tray and gasket and replace as needed.

INSTALLATION

Clean the oil pan gasket mating surface of the bed plate and oil pan.
Position the oil pan gasket and pickup tube with new o-ring. Install the mounting bolt and nuts. Tighten bolt and nuts to 28 Nm (20 ft. Lbs.).

Position the oil pan and install the mounting bolts. Tighten the mounting bolts to 15 Nm (11 ft. Lbs.) In the sequence shown.

Lower the engine into mounts using special tool (1) # 8534.
Install both the left and right side engine mount through bolts. Tighten the bolts to 68 Nm (50 ft. Lbs.).
Remove special tool # 8534.

Install structural dust cover.

NOTE: On 4WD vehicles, the front axle must be lowered, to provide clearance for oil pan removal. It is not necessary to remove the front axle from the vehicle, or remove the axle shafts.

For 4WD Vehicles Raise axle using suitable jack.
For 4WD Vehicles Install the front axle mounting bolts.
For 4WD Vehicles Install the pinion bracket.
For 4WD Vehicles Install the front driveshaft to the front axle.
Fill engine oil.
Reconnect the negative battery cable.
Start engine and check for leaks.
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Tuesday, October 9th, 2012 AT 1:03 AM
Tiny
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Thank you very much
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Tuesday, October 9th, 2012 AT 1:15 AM
Tiny
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Oil pan removal procedure. I believe engine needs to be lifted for clearance to remove oil pan.
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Thursday, January 7th, 2021 AT 1:34 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Good morning.

Below is the procedure. You will need an engine lift to lift the engine enough to remove the oil pan.

Roy

OIL PAN

REMOVAL
1. Disconnect the negative battery cable.
2. Install engine support fixture special tool 8534. Do not raise engine at this time.
3. Loosen both left and right side engine mount through bolts. Do not remove bolts.
4. Remove the structural dust cover, if equipped.
5. Drain engine oil.
6. Remove the front crossmember.

CAUTION: Only raise the engine enough to provide clearance for oil pan removal. Check for proper clearance at fan shroud to fan and cowl to intake manifold.

7. Raise engine using special tool 8534 to provide clearance to remove oil pan.

NOTE: Do not pry on oil pan or oil pan gasket. Gasket is integral to engine windage tray and does not come out with oil pan.

8. Remove the oil pan mounting bolts and oil pan.
9. Unbolt oil pump pickup tube and remove tube.
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Thursday, January 7th, 2021 AT 1:34 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Question: is the motor mount "through bolt" listed above the bolt that goes through the motor mount or is it the bolts that hold the mount to the motor?
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Thursday, January 7th, 2021 AT 1:34 PM (Merged)
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It is the one that goes through the mount.

Roy
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Thursday, January 7th, 2021 AT 1:34 PM (Merged)
Tiny
BRIAN CORCORAN
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Thank for all your help. Going at this blind plus what you have given me. Final question, should the bolt be partially removed from the mount? Thanks
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Thursday, January 7th, 2021 AT 1:34 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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You are welcome.

No, the bolt has to be removed.

Roy
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Thursday, January 7th, 2021 AT 1:34 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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How do I remove an oil pan from vehicle listed above (Club Cab)?
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Thursday, January 7th, 2021 AT 1:34 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Good afternoon.

Big job. The front axle is the first thing that has to come out to start.

I attached the procedure below for you to view.

Roy

REMOVAL - 4X4

NOTE: 4X4 vehicles equipped with a 4.7L engine must have the front axle removed before the oil pan can be removed.

1. Remove the front axle from vehicle. Refer to TRANSMISSION AND DRIVETRAIN.

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2. Remove the structural dust cover (Fig. 105) using sequence shown.
3. Drain the engine oil and remove oil filter.

NOTE: Do not pry on oil pan or oil pan gasket. Gasket is mounted to engine and does not come out with oil pan.

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4. Remove the oil pan mounting bolts and oil pan (Fig. 106).
5. Unbolt oil pump pickup tube and remove tube and oil pan gasket from engine.

INSTALLATION - 4X2
1. Clean the oil pan gasket mating surface of the bedplate and oil pan.
2. Position the oil pan gasket and pickup tube with new O-ring. Install the mounting bolt and nuts. Tighten bolt and nuts to 28 Nm (20 ft. Lbs.).
3. Position the oil pan and install the mounting bolts. Tighten the mounting bolts to 15 Nm (11 ft. Lbs.) In the sequence shown (Fig. 104).
4. Raise the engine and remove the blocks of wood.
5. Lower engine and install both the left and right side engine mount through bolts (Fig. 103). Tighten the nuts to 68 Nm (50 ft. Lbs.).
6. Remove jack and install oil filter.
7. Install structural dust cover.
8. Install exhaust pipe onto exhaust manifolds.
9. Lower vehicle.
10. Install intake manifold.
11. Install throttle body resonator and air inlet hose.
12. Install upper fan shroud.
13. Fill cooling system.
14. Fill engine oil.
15. Start engine and check for leaks.

INSTALLATION - 4X4
1. Clean the oil pan gasket mating surface of the bedplate and oil pan.
2. Position the oil pan gasket and pickup tube with new O-ring. Install the mounting bolt and nuts. Tighten bolt and nuts to 28 Nm (20 ft. Lbs.).
3. Position the oil pan and install the mounting bolts. Tighten the mounting bolts to 15 Nm (11 ft. Lbs.) In the sequence shown (Fig. 106).
4. Install structural dust cover.
5. Install oil filter.
6. Install front axle. Refer to TRANSMISSION AND DRIVETRAIN.
7. Lower vehicle.
8. Fill engine oil.
9. Start engine check for leaks.
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Thursday, January 7th, 2021 AT 1:34 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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I want to know how to change an oil pan on a dodge dakota.I really only need a time it may take and if you need to remove the differential to get to it.I will not be doing the job myself
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Thursday, January 7th, 2021 AT 1:34 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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NOTE
On 4wd vehicles, the front axle must be removed before the oil pan can be removed.

Remove the front axle from vehicle (described later)
Remove the structural dust cover using sequence shown.
Drain the engine oil and remove oil filter.
Remove the oil pan mounting bolts and oil pan.
Unbolt oil pump pickup tube and remove tube and oil pan gasket from engine.
Clean the oil pan gasket mating surface of the bedplate and oil pan.
Position the oil pan gasket and pickup tube with new o-ring. Install the mounting bolt and nuts.Tighten bolt and nuts to 28 Nm (20 ft. lbs.).
Position the oil pan and install the mounting bolts. Tighten the mounting bolts to 15 Nm (11 ft.lbs.) in the sequence shown.
Install structural dust cover.
Install oil filter.
Install front axle.
Lower vehicle.
Fill engine oil.
Start engine check for leaks.

Oil pan mounting bolt tightening sequence"”4.7L engine


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Bedplate bolt tightening sequence"”4.7L engine


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4.7L engine bedplate bolt torque sequence


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FRONT AXLE
Remove the half shaft from vehicle.
Remove the skid plate, if equipped.
Clean the axle seal area.
Remove axle shaft O-ring.
Remove the axle shaft.
Remove the axle shaft seal.
Install the axle shaft bearing remover C-4660-A, or equivalent, in the bearing. Then tighten the nut to spread the remover in the bearing.
Install the bearing remove cup, bearing and nut. Then tighten the nut to draw the bearingout.
Inspect the axle shaft tube bore for roughness and burrs. Remove as necessary.
Wipe the axle shaft tube bore clean.
Install the axle shaft bearing with installer 5063 and handle C-4171, or equivalent.
Install a new axle shaft seal with installer 8402 and handle C-4171, or equivalent.
Install the axle shaft and half shaft.

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Thursday, January 7th, 2021 AT 1:34 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Engine Mechanical problem V8 Two Wheel Drive Automatic

how do I replace the oil pan gasket without dropping the trans or pulling the motor out
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Thursday, January 7th, 2021 AT 1:35 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Hello,

Here are the instructions from the manual.

Disconnect negative battery cable. Remove oil dipstick and distributor cap. Raise and support vehicle. Drain engine oil.

Remove exhaust pipe.

Remove side engine mount bolts.
Slightly raise engine.

When engine is at adequate height, install bolts in side engine mount-to-frame bracket holes to support engine

Lower engine, and allow it to rest on bolts installed in side engine mounts.

Remove oil pan bolts, oil pan and gaskets.

Please let us know what happens.

Cheers, Ken
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Thursday, January 7th, 2021 AT 1:35 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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How hard is it to change transmission pan and gasket? The pan has a small crack but doesnt leak much of anything. And how much fluid do I put back in when i'm done.
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Thursday, January 7th, 2021 AT 1:36 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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It isn't hard to do. There are several bolts that hold it on. The worst part is when removing it, the fluid will fly everywhere if you're not careful. Just purchase a new filter and gasket at the local parts store so you can replace the filter too (easy to do). WHen you remove the pan, loosten all bolts except 3 that are side by side. After the rest are out, begin loostenrtg the three slowly so the pan starts to open on the opposite end. That way, the fluid will pour out of one side rather than everywhere. Once it is drained, remove and clean the pan, remove all old gasket from the pan and trans, replace the filter that will be right there, and reverse the sequence. Make sure not to over tighten the bolts or you will end up with a new leak.

As far as the number of quarts of ATF, first make sure to get the correct type (I BELIEVE it is ATF+4) it will say it on the dipstick. Start with around 3.5 to 4 quarts. Start the engine, run the shifter through all gears a few times and allow the vehicle to warm up. Then check the level and fill it as necessary. I think 4 is going to do it, but it may be a little less or more.

If you have other questions, let me know.
Joe
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Thursday, January 7th, 2021 AT 1:36 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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I have lifted the engine and the oil pan will not clear the bell housing. Do I have to try and remove the oil pump first with the pan still on or how do I get the pan off?
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Thursday, January 7th, 2021 AT 1:36 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Welcome to 2CarPros.

You shouldn't have to remove the pump. Here are the directions specific to removal on your vehicle. Also, have you removed the distributor? It will hit the firewall/cowl and stop the engine from going high enough. Again, here are the directions from Alldata. Take a look through them.

PROCEDURES
1. Disconnect battery ground cable, then remove oil dipstick.
2. Disconnect distributor cap and set aside away from cowl, then raise and support vehicle.
3. Drain engine oil, then remove exhaust crossover pipe.
4. Loosen side engine mount bolts, then using suitable jack and wood block positioned at oil pan, raise engine slightly and remove side engine mount bolts.
5. When engine is high enough, place bolts similar to engine mount bolts in mount attaching points on frame brackets. Lower engine so mount bottoms rest on installed bolts.
6. Remove oil pan and gasket.
7. Reverse procedure to install. Apply in corner of cap and block. Tighten attaching bolts to specifications.

Let me know if this helps.

Joe
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