My starter is not working to crank the engine over?

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DENNIS OLSON
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If a starter needs replacing, can the car be started by jump-start from another car?
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Saturday, June 24th, 2017 AT 7:38 PM

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Tiny
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No. A jump-start overcomes a drained or weak battery, not a bad starter.

Now, to add a little color to the story, starters can fail in multiple ways. One of them is to develop a break in one of the two coils of wire in the starter solenoid. The electromagnetic fields of both coils are needed to engage the starter, then switch it on, but once engaged, only one of them is needed to hold it engaged while it's cranking the engine. One coil alone is usually not strong enough to pull the starter into engagement, but, with a jump-start, the system voltage in the assisting car is higher, and it might be just enough to get the bad starter to engage. That will provide an incorrect clue that that starter is okay.

You did not list any details about your car. If it has a manual transmission, it can be push-started to get the engine started.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-battery-load-test

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https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-replace-a-car-battery
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Saturday, June 24th, 2017 AT 7:55 PM
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Thanks! Is was the starter motor! I love this site
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Sunday, June 25th, 2017 AT 6:11 AM
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Nice work, we are here to help, please use 2CarPros anytime.
Cheers, Ken
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Tuesday, June 27th, 2017 AT 12:14 PM
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Hi,

So this morning I went to turn on my car to go to work at it would not turn on. I drove it two hours before and it was working fine, so I am confused as to why it won't start now. When I turn the key my dash board starts rapidly flashing and I can hear a fast clicking sound. I've tried to jump start my car four times and it still won't turn on. I called Honda and told them what was happening and once I said "a green key light flashed for a second" they told me my key chip wasn't recognizing my car and that I had to go to Honda and have them reset my keys so they recognize my car. I looked up the green key light and everyone who has had it said it was on for more than once second, so I am not sure if the guy at Honda is correct. Also, on the radio screen it says "Enter Code" I'm not sure what that means. Do you know what could be wrong with my car? And what I need to do to get my car working again?

Thanks :)
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Monday, January 4th, 2021 AT 11:15 AM (Merged)
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I have to agree with the person from the Honda dealer. It sounds like the security system is kicking in and not allowing it to start. If you have a spare key, try it. If it still doesn't work try this guide to rest it.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-reset-a-security-system

Please run down this guide and report back.
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Monday, January 4th, 2021 AT 11:15 AM (Merged)
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Had remote key remade ignition locked up but somehow managed to click over and now the dash lights go off and the car shuts off what is it?
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Monday, January 4th, 2021 AT 11:15 AM (Merged)
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Hi,

It sounds like the battery is out. These guides can help us fix it

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/starter-not-working-repair

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https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-battery-load-test

Please run down these guides and report back.
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Monday, January 4th, 2021 AT 11:15 AM (Merged)
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When you put the key in to crank the car it makes a chugging sound it turns over 1 2 3 times very slowly like the starter is struggling to try to start the motor but it will not start the motor the battery has tested good at advanced Auto it is for myself the spark plugs are about four to six months old are throwing Sparks I don't know what else to do what is causing this problem does have gasoline in it have checked for fuses nothing burnt no relays burnt no linkable fuse is burnt
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Monday, January 4th, 2021 AT 11:15 AM (Merged)
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Hi and thanks for using 2carpros.com

I have a couple questions. First, the last time it ran, were there any issues? If timing has jumped, it can cause this, so that's why I ask. If not, it sounds like you may have a bad starter. If it is turning slowly and the battery is good, confirm that battery terminals are clean and tight. Also, make sure the grounds from the battery are attached to the engine and body. They must be clean and tight too.

Here are a couple links that you may find helpful. Note: I am questioning the starter because the battery is good and it seems you checked the electrical components. That leaves the starter, unless there were engine problems prior to this. Also, let me know how the battery was checked. Was it load tested? I will attach a link that shows how to do it.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/everything-goes-dead-when-engine-is-cranked

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-battery-load-test

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/symptoms-of-a-bad-car-battery

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-cranks-but-wont-start

Let me know if this helps. If you answer the questions I listed, it will make it easier for me to help diagnose the problem.

Take care,

Joe

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Monday, January 4th, 2021 AT 11:15 AM (Merged)
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When I try to crank my car it make a noise but don’t turn on. My lights in the car come on. Someone said it was the starter. So I got a new one and got it put on and it still did not crank. So they said my motor could be locked, but I’m thinking it’s my VVT switch.
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Monday, January 4th, 2021 AT 11:15 AM (Merged)
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Hi,

What noise does it make when you turn the key? Does it actually turn over or does it just click? Maybe get a video of what it does when you are starting it because that will help us get on the same page.

Let me know and we can go from there. Thanks
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Monday, January 4th, 2021 AT 11:15 AM (Merged)
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Okay, it was making a clicking noise but I think I tried cranking it too many times to the point it started making the noise in the video.
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Monday, January 4th, 2021 AT 11:15 AM (Merged)
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Put a socket and breaker bar on the crankshaft pulley and make sure the engine turns over. That noise is the starter gear bouncing on the flex plate (the toothed gear wheel that turns the engine when the starter turns). If the engine is locked up it will do this so we need to make sure you can spin the engine by hand.
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Monday, January 4th, 2021 AT 11:15 AM (Merged)
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I am a toyota tech but i've never seen this befor battery is fully charged at 12.4 volts fuses checked outso now I am confused everytime you try to start the starter is ticking, all os the digital components flicker like crazy, the radio doesn't luminate anymoreit randomly shut off, the security sytem wont activate. Any suggestions I am very frustrated any suggestions?
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Monday, January 4th, 2021 AT 11:15 AM (Merged)
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Hi kevinjess915,

Test the battery. Some maintenance free batteries would show a full charge but when high rate discharge are required, they fail. Try using a jumper and see if problem goes away.

Check the ground circuit connections, especially the one from the battery to the transmission. When they are insecure, the problem would occur. Check for frayed ground cables.

Ticking starter indicates insufficient power from the battery.
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