Car appears to be in limp mode

Tiny
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My car appears to be in limp mode. There are not any code being picked up by scanner. The shop can’t figure it out. What shall I try?
Saturday, October 3rd, 2020 AT 8:57 PM

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Tiny
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Good morning,

This happens when the throttle bore needs to be serviced which will not set a code most of the time. These guides can help us fix it.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/reduced-power-limp-mode

and

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/throttle-actuator-service

Please run down these guides and report back.
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Sunday, October 4th, 2020 AT 5:26 AM
Tiny
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My car will go, about 30 mph and it idles fine. At idle it will not rev up, over 3,000 rpm's. When I was driving it one day it shut off on me. I replaced the battery it started up and drove fine then died again before I got home. The alternator was bad and I replaced it. The car started up and now will not go over 30 mph. It appears to be in a limp mode.
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Sunday, October 4th, 2020 AT 5:41 AM
Tiny
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Okay, thanks. It still sounds like the bore is dirty which will come and go for the computer.
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Sunday, October 4th, 2020 AT 5:48 AM
Tiny
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Roy, thank you for your reply. I actually took the car to Christian Brothers Automotive and they ran checks on the fuel pressure and exhaust to see if the catalytic converter†s were plugged ; checked for grounds completed a relearn on the system and they could not find anything. The ECU is not giving any codes. I do not have any check engine lights. They basically said they don’t know what it is. Before I took it to shop the car was having trouble starting. I had it towed to the shop. And now starts right up and idles fine I just don’t have any power and it will not go over 25 to 30 mph.
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Sunday, October 4th, 2020 AT 6:30 AM
Tiny
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Okay, they missed something.

This is not a difficult issue at all let try the guides I sent to see if that helps.
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Sunday, October 4th, 2020 AT 6:35 AM
Tiny
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Thank you Roy. When I serviced the throttle bore according to the guide it fixed it I cant believe none of the shops or people I took it too knew this? Thanks
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Sunday, October 4th, 2020 AT 7:47 AM
Tiny
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I know, some shops are still coming up to speed on this issue.

Roy
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Sunday, October 4th, 2020 AT 8:06 AM
Tiny
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The car is constantly being put into limp mode with a U0107 Code. I have replaced the TPS mounted on the firewall and the entire Throttle Body but I still get the code and subsequent limp mode. As far as driving conditions are concerned it always seems to happen on the highway or shortly after leaving the highway. After changing the TB I am now at a lost as to what the problem can be since those were the only codes to be thrown out.

Please allow me to explain the 1st occurrence because I believe a little history might be helpful. The first time happened during a long drive from New York to Miami. I made it all the way to Jacksonville (approximately 1000 miles) nonstop only to refuel with no problems and all of a sudden LIMP MODE. Right before the car went into limp mode, I started to feel cold AC water drip on my drivers pedal foot. I believe that was from an EXTREMELY clogged and dirty air filter overworking the AC as opposed to a clogged drain. After changing the AC filter I have not had that problem. The car gave two codes. The first was P2138 and the second was U0107. I unplugged the battery, checked into a hotel, and finish the trip to Miami in the morning. Those were the only two codes to ever show up on the generic readers.

I have tried searching your site for problems specific to mine but couldn't come up with anything resembling it.
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Tuesday, May 11th, 2021 AT 6:43 PM (Merged)
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The 2138 code si the app sensor not the tps. That is where your gas pedal is and it would seem right s you stated it had water dripping on it. You are also getting the u code probably due to the app sensor and it throws the trans into limp mode. Of course it could be something else but unplug the heater drain under car with wire then replace your app sensor. Then clear all the codes.
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Tuesday, May 11th, 2021 AT 6:43 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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First I would like to thank you for such a prompt response but I also have to apologize for including that I changed two parts I thought were related to the reoccurring U0107 code. The first one was the APP sensor right on the firewall and then the Throttle Control Body. Both parts are brand new from the dealer, but I am still getting the code as indicated usually on the highway without running the AC. The P2138 code has never shown up up again but the U0107 seems like a 7-10 occurrence. I just want to make sure if there is another related part behind the gas pedal itself? And I am also curious, is there a separate relay for either of those two components that could be shorting out? Also my car is the 2.4 Liter if that makes a difference.
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Tuesday, May 11th, 2021 AT 6:43 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Tis isn't as easy as changing a part to fix it. This is how it works: The engine control module (ECM)/powertrain control module (PCM) uses the serial signal line for two-way communication with the throttle actuator control module.
The ECM/PCM transmits the accelerator pedal position signal to the throttle actuator module, and the throttle actuator control module transmits the actual throttle valve position signal, or a malfunction signal, etc, to the ECM/PCM via this line.
When no serial signals from the throttle actuator control module are received or the serial signals are abnormal for more than a set period of time, the ECM/PCM detects a malfunction and a DTC is stored.
If the connection is bad at any of these or low battery voltage so have the battery checked for condition and load test may have something to do with it. You really need a pro scanner to delve in to this especially since you have stated that water got on your sensor. That really screws things up. This cold have even shorted the throttle module out but you don't want to replace modules without actually checking these first and you need a pro style scanner to do that.
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Tuesday, May 11th, 2021 AT 6:43 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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When car is started the green sports light comes on and remains on. There is a ticking sound that also occurs that one can easily hear comiing from under the hood of the car. Sound is not there when driving. However, there is no transmission change. Took car to transmission place. They could not read the codes, told me car is in "fail safe mode" and will not change gears. They think it might be an electrical problem. Battery, alternator all new. Battery 3 months old, alternator 3 months old. Practically everything under the hood has been replaced. Do you think this is an electrical problem?
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Tuesday, June 15th, 2021 AT 10:12 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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You should have them check the throttle and vehicle speed sensors-this 2 inputs signals to the computer as an indication of throttle and governor pressure and in turn the computer commands a given shift solenoid to come in play to provide the upshifts/downshifts/lock-up etc.
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Tuesday, June 15th, 2021 AT 10:12 AM (Merged)
Tiny
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You need a new TCU. Trasmission control unit. I replaced one in my 1990 Accord and it worked perfectly.
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Tuesday, June 15th, 2021 AT 10:12 AM (Merged)
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Hello, I'm Danny.

The first thing you should do is check for any stored codes in your vehicles computer. Here is a tutorial showing how to test for Honda OBD1 codes:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/honda-car-1990-1995-obd1-code-retrieval-procedure-and-definition-table

After you perform this test get back to us with any code information with your car and we can then help you with a proper diagnosis. Hope this helps and thanks for using 2CarPros.
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Tuesday, June 15th, 2021 AT 10:12 AM (Merged)

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