Headlights, turn signals, door locks (via keyless) just stopped working.

Tiny
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Headlights, turn signals, door locks (via keyless) just stopped working, also door lock switch seems inop. Car starts and goes into gear. Hazard lights work. And external temp gauge does not work. I have not checked the fuses yet but that seems impossible due to all the separation.

Need to solve this as night is approaching
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Sunday, March 4th, 2012 AT 9:12 PM

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Tiny
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The next thing would be to look at the immobilizer but that would only be if the car were not starting. The bottom line is that getting the trouble codes pulled will be the next step in diagnosing the situation. We are still headed down the right tract.

I had thought about it some more and it might very well be an issue with the anti-theft system or the immobilizer. If you are still having issues let me know and we can pursue that path.

Here are wiring diagrams to show you both the headlight and blinker light system so you can see how they work.

There is an MICU they both share FYI.

Use this guide to test for power loss.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-use-a-test-light-circuit-tester

Check out the diagrams (Below). Please let us know what you find.

Cheers
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Monday, October 1st, 2012 AT 3:36 PM
Tiny
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My 2007 Odyssey had almost the identical symptoms last night. My 2007 Odyssey's Bright lights, turn signals, temperature gauge, both power sliding doors, my back windshield wiper, gauge lights flicker, intermittent wipers don't work, wipers in regular speed operate in fast speed, and fluids all stopped working at the same time. All fuses checked, no go. Stopped and restarted van, again no go. Went to parts store - no codes are showing up, Battery, Starter, and Alternator test fine.
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Saturday, December 8th, 2012 AT 6:24 PM
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Looks like I made a mistake in my wording. I said "no go, " when I meant that solution didnt work. Actually the engine runs fine. And there were no codes when tested at AutoZone this morning. If the engine runs fine, it wouldn't be the imbolizer would it?
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Saturday, December 8th, 2012 AT 8:55 PM
Tiny
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Hi everyone. The solution to my original post is still not found. However we have done some testing. The dealership has replaced the battery but the Electrical Problem still occurs after a steady or heavy rain storm. So when the van is parked outside during weather like it was when my wife was at work. The same issues appear and it takes a while to correct if at all.

To be clear:
1. Key fob and battery are OK
2. All fuses check out.
3. There is no wire short or burning smell to be found.
4. Dealership was not helpful as to "its not doing it now" during the service visit.

Van is currently in for a A1/A2 service. Hopefully it happens during its time in the shop.

Thanks for everyones input.
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Sunday, December 9th, 2012 AT 5:07 AM
Tiny
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Interesting. My '07 seems to have near identical issue. Although this is the 1st time mine has happens. And it has been raining for 2 days straight. But issues are: dash light kinda flicker, power locks don't work, outside temp gauge doesn't work, brights don't work, rear wiper not working, intermittent wiper not working, wiper on slow runs fast, power windows don't work after shutting off engine and accessory but before openning door, and power doors don't work.
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Sunday, December 9th, 2012 AT 3:01 PM
Tiny
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DrCranknWrench. Do you have anything for us? I did call the Honda dealer and they said they hadn't heard of this issue before. So it isn't a recall yet or maybe not an item that has hit multitudes of owners. But the fact that this similar yet very goofy issue is happening to at least 2 of us here (and I found similar postings elsewhere online) so there is something common here. And hopefully simple. Do you have access to any Technical Service Bulletin type stuff or anything?
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Monday, December 10th, 2012 AT 8:52 PM
Tiny
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Whew hew! Just got off the phone with a mechanic from church. He said the problem is a sensor inside the drivers side door panel. He is going to get me the specifics tomorrow. But said all I have to do is get it out, clean and dry it, then re seal it so tjat it doesnt get wet again!
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Tuesday, December 11th, 2012 AT 11:20 PM
Tiny
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I think it could be the master switch for all the locks.
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Thursday, December 13th, 2012 AT 4:34 AM
Tiny
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I'm all fixed! There is a Honda TSB on it. Pull off the interior panel on the rear left hand side. Just inside of where the taillight is. It's a connector for the wiring harness. It's wet. Dry that puppy off. Seal it. And all fixed! To test you're on the right connector just pull it apart and 90% of those ghost issues are fixed. But dry it, reconnect and all is fixed!
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Friday, December 14th, 2012 AT 11:56 PM
Tiny
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That is great news. TSB is a good source. Www. NHSTA. Gov, is also a good place to pull that sort of stuff.
I am really glad to hear it is working for you and all is well.
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Saturday, December 15th, 2012 AT 3:09 AM
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Hello
Can you please tell exactly where this connector is? Is it where the jack is located?
My van is doing the same thing.
Thanks!
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Sunday, July 20th, 2014 AT 5:14 PM
Tiny
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Customer came into my shop with the Same problem with 2007 Honda Odyssey.
Did the connector behind the spare tire. And no fix. No water.
Traced problem to Multi-Plex ( Cabin Fuse Panel ) Water leaked onto panel, shorted our fuse block/ panel. Replaced and all fixed. Wish it was as easy and you all had, would of saved me a few hours of Diag time.
Ed
Anglesea Auto Repair NJ
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Thursday, March 5th, 2015 AT 6:42 AM
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To TommyBoy37. My 2003 Honda Oddesey does the same things. For 2 years now each system takes turns flaking out. My cruise control works 200 miles, stops 600 miles and starts up again. Wiper fluid works in front, not back, then switches, then ok. Power sliding rear doors open, but when closing they just roll back and forth until you force them shut. Remote keyless never worked. Power windows only driver side works now, back two "wings" are stuck in open and are currently covered with duck tape to keep rain/snow out of van. Now neither front door opens with key, but rear door does. And yesterday the speedometer and tachometer jumped like crazy, then all "idiot" lights were popping off/on and after I pulled over, couldnt restart car.
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Tuesday, October 11th, 2016 AT 2:02 PM
Tiny
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@ DOREEN WRIGHT - I had the same problem with speedometer, tachometer and dashboard lights going nuts, dead battery after shutdown and it ended up being a bad alternator. You may have two different issues.
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Saturday, November 5th, 2016 AT 12:04 PM
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Hey,

Did you ever get the problem fixed?

Best, Ken
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Wednesday, January 11th, 2017 AT 11:03 AM
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I recently had the same problem after heavy rains. No power door locks, no headlights, no turn signals, no intermittent wipers, no rear wiper. I did a lot of reviewing wiring diagrams, testing voltages here and there and finally with some suggestions from other forums came to the conclusion that it must be one of the MICU units. They are control units where at least a half a dozen wiring harnesses come together and are controlled by a communication bus. There is one integrated in the driver's kick panel fuse box. There is another in the rear passenger side behind the panel in the rear heater/tail light area. I found that there was water in the front MICU. Removed it, cleaned all connections (some were corroded) but still no luck. Then, I did the same for the rear which also had water on it! What a leaky van. Anyway, after that everything came to life. If just one of the communication bus wires is wet it will halt all related body control functions. Even seemingly simple things like wipers are all controlled via a communications bus. Hope this helps people.
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Saturday, May 13th, 2017 AT 6:25 PM
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Hey,

Great addition to this thread! Please feel free to help out on the site whenever it can add information that will help.

Cheers, Ken
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Tuesday, May 16th, 2017 AT 2:16 PM
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Same here, two days rain and nothing works, no blinkers, dash stuff not working, etc. Opened and water everywhere! This needs to be recalled!
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Wednesday, January 3rd, 2018 AT 2:56 PM
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That is a problem. I hope this thread gets picked up by Honda so they can see there is a problem.
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Wednesday, January 3rd, 2018 AT 7:16 PM
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Hi All,

I had the same issue and was able to narrow it down to happening during/after is was raining. I brought it to Honda and asked my service rep to check for Bulletins and sure enough he found one Service Bulletin 08-078 | Eletrical Problems and B-CAN DTCs after exposure to water/water leaks. I hope this helps someone resolve their concern as this has been maddening for months to try to get to the bottom of.

Rich
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