Having a problem with the tail lights in the.

Tiny
J.STIEG
  • 2001 VOLKSWAGEN JETTA
  • 150,000 MILES

Having a problem with the tail lights in the rear driverside.
#23 5a fues keeps blowing.
Also the instrument cluster ilumination lights do not come on.

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Monday, October 22nd, 2012 AT 5:23 PM

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Tiny
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If the taillight fuse blows, the instrument cluster illumination would not work. There is a shortin somewhere and if you have any impact damagges to fron ot rear of vehicle check the wirings for shorting to body. Disconnect all taillight bulbs and test if fuse still blows.

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Monday, October 22nd, 2012 AT 5:28 PM
Tiny
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Ok I disconnected all main connectors front and back to all lights in every corner of the vehicle. Fues #23 still blowes

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Monday, October 22nd, 2012 AT 6:02 PM
Tiny
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A simple trick to finding a short is to replace the blown fuse with a pair of spade terminals, then use small jumper wires to connect them to a 12 volt light bulb. A brake light bulb works well. When the circuit is live and the short is present, the bulb will be full brightness and hot so be sure it's not laying on the carpet or against a plastic door panel. Now you can unplug electrical connectors and move things around to see what makes the short go away. When it does, the bulb will get dim or go out.

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Monday, October 22nd, 2012 AT 7:21 PM
Tiny
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Is fues #23 a 5a?
Also need diagrams? Got to get this fixed soon. Thanks

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Tuesday, October 23rd, 2012 AT 1:42 AM
Tiny
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Hope KHLow2008 can help with that. I've never been able to access the wiring diagram section. We do have links here for Mitchell service manuals. I can also send you to AllData if that will help.

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Tuesday, October 23rd, 2012 AT 1:49 AM
Tiny
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Where exactly does #23 go. How many things does #23 power. Need to see some wire routing.

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Tuesday, October 23rd, 2012 AT 1:53 AM
Tiny
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This link will take you to Mitchell Manuals:

http://www.2carpros.com/articles/mitchell1eautorepair-car-repair-manuals

This one will take you to my web site with an ad on top for AllData:

http://randysrepairshop.net/index.html

I have a lot of stuff for troubleshooting electrical problems but nothing specific to your car. Mitchell is less expensive and they have always had really good wiring diagrams. I wish I could get into those sites to get a diagram for you. Hopefully KHLow2008 will be able to when he sees your reply.

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Tuesday, October 23rd, 2012 AT 2:09 AM
Tiny
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Are you sure the problem is in the back?

Did you check the front left side marker in the bumper?

How's the amber bulb in the front headlight assembly?

Thomas

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Tuesday, October 23rd, 2012 AT 2:56 AM
Tiny
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Attached image:

- #92 goes to front left side marker
- #115 goes to left tail light
- #98 goes to left park light (front)

Thomas

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Tuesday, October 23rd, 2012 AT 3:01 AM
Tiny
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Forgot image. Sorry.

Still getting used to new website layout.

Thomas

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Tuesday, October 23rd, 2012 AT 3:02 AM
Tiny
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Thomas,
can you post that diagram again, only without the red arrows. Thanks

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Tuesday, October 23rd, 2012 AT 4:19 PM
Tiny
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Never mind, I think they are all GR/SW. Thanks
Once again every thing is unplugged FRONT and BACK Side to side and fues #23 is still blowing.

I will try disconnecting power to cluster to.

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Tuesday, October 23rd, 2012 AT 4:25 PM
Tiny
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Put the light bulb in there. Why keep on buying fuses? Instead of doing a bunch of stuff, then installing and blowing another fuse, just see what makes the bulb go out. WAY more efficient and less costly.

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Tuesday, October 23rd, 2012 AT 8:30 PM
Tiny
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The #23 fues ONLY blows when the HEADLIGHT SWITCH is on, but with all lights unplugged in every corner.

I have the test light bulb looped in series on #23, and all lights UNPLUGGED. I now turn the headlight switch on, but TEST LIGHT comes on.

Right now I am trying to get the test light off, with headlight switch on, and of course every light unplugged.

Trying to find a place to unplugg at firewall to see if problem is in the front or back, Any ideas?

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Wednesday, October 24th, 2012 AT 10:52 PM
Tiny
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There are 10 wires going to the headlight switch. I need to know what they are, and test them for shorts.

If I unplug headlight switch connector the test light on fues #23 goes out.

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Thursday, October 25th, 2012 AT 1:10 AM
Tiny
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It will take me a minute to find & upload a PDF file.

Thomas

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Thursday, October 25th, 2012 AT 1:59 AM
Tiny
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The Light switch is on page #14.

Thomas

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Thursday, October 25th, 2012 AT 2:08 AM
Tiny
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See if this diagram is of any help.

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Thursday, October 25th, 2012 AT 1:16 PM
Tiny
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Thanks KHLow2008 for the diagrams! I found the problem using the diagrams.
It was a left front small amber running light shorted out.

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Tuesday, November 13th, 2012 AT 9:44 PM
Tiny
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Glad to know you have fixed the problem.

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Wednesday, November 14th, 2012 AT 1:59 AM

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