ENGINE QUIT CAR HAS 34S FUEL GUAGE READS EMPTY

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Lets hope it would be good Christmas if it was fixed by then.

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Thursday, November 22nd, 2012 AT 3:34 AM
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Hi,
I'm back from the Dark Continent, and I don't remember where we left off, but here is where we are at this point. I bought an code reader, it didn't work, just sent it back. A new developement is the car will not go into neutral, acts like it had an anti theft thing gong on. Seems the more I've done to it, the worse it gets. Probably should have changed the crank position sensor before doing any of the module changes. To refresh your memory, I've changed the BCM, and the fuse box. That didn't help, so I have the original parts back in. Any idea what I can try next? I bought a Crankshaft position indicator but it seems to be the wrong one, unless I am looking at the wrong component it is a different connector. The cpi is in the front of the engine, right above the starter, right?
I've never had such a hard time fixing a car problem, I am at a loss.
Gr

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Wednesday, December 12th, 2012 AT 6:26 PM
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So the code reader was defective or just not working on your car?A basic code reader you can only see if it talks to the pcm but if you cant talk to the bcm which we dont know if we can. You won't able to talk. To the pcm. Ethier. Refresh my memory why are we replacing the crank. Shaft position sensor?No spark sensor tests bad?Also the sensor should be bellow the starter.

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Wednesday, December 12th, 2012 AT 7:07 PM
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Yes, no spark, no fuel pump action when key is turned on. The pump works when I jump it at the relay, also have fuel pressure at the bleeder valve. The reader was supposed to "live read", but it was inop when I received it.

The symptoms have multiplied since I've begun working on it. I tried to move the car out of the garage, but couldn't even get it to shift from park to neutral, maybe a computer problem?

What is the sensor above the starter? I was mistaking that for the CPS, should have realized it since it has only one wire and the CPS has two. Duh. I have a new CPS and will install it, although with all the other symptoms I doubt that it will do much good.

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Wednesday, December 12th, 2012 AT 10:22 PM
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Dont waste your money on replacing that sensor it probably not bad. You can test the old sensor with a multi meter see what the ohms reading is on it?Also see if the parking light fuse is blown if it is you wont be able to take it out of park. Also if the scan tool didnt power up then you may not have power to the orange wire at the connector where you plug the scan tool in. See if there is power to the orange wire at the connector?

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Thursday, December 13th, 2012 AT 6:33 AM
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Back again. I kind of gave up on this because I wasn't getting anywhere. Since then the car has been to two different shops, the first said they couldn't communicate with the BCM. The second shop pulled the CPS because it was bad. They think that the sensor was the original problem and I must have crashed the BCM when I changed it, maybe because of a static discharge. They told me that I would have to bring it to a Saturn dealer to have it flashed or reprogramed. (If it isn't damaged) So I had it towed today and the dealer will have a look tomorrow. Will let you know what happens. I've got my fingers crossed.

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Friday, December 28th, 2012 AT 4:21 AM
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The cps is not going to effect the gas gauge etc I havechange a ton of those bcms and have never spiked one. The cps you can test with a multi meter. That's why I kept saying would be nice to be able to see if you could talk to the bcm. Let me know what they find.

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Friday, December 28th, 2012 AT 7:11 AM
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I said in my last post that two shops were unable to communicate (talk) with the BCM. I'm hoping to get it figured out at the Saturn dealer. Will let you know.
Gr

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Friday, December 28th, 2012 AT 3:39 PM
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Yes please do.

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Friday, December 28th, 2012 AT 6:26 PM

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