No spark?

Tiny
MWITKOWSKI
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  • 1997 JEEP CHEROKEE
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No spark, replaced coil, also pickup coil still no spark?
Friday, July 23rd, 2010 AT 1:29 PM

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Tiny
RASMATAZ
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I have seen the ASD relay cause this here is a guide that can help with the relay location in the diagrams below.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-an-electrical-relay-and-wiring-control-circuit

Check out the diagrams (Below). Please let us know what happens.
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Friday, July 23rd, 2010 AT 9:19 PM
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MADDOGTC
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I have a 1997 jeep grand cherokee with a 5.2 liter engine. I recently replaced the right head and put everything back together. After reinstalling head the engine ran great. But after running for about 30 minutes and a test drive, the thing died and will now not start. I have attached a test light to coil and am getting no spark now. I first thought it was just out of gas. I have reset the security system by locking and unlocking the back hatch and front driver doors. Anything i'm missing? I need help. About at my wits end.
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Monday, December 7th, 2020 AT 12:19 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Did you check primary voltage at the coil, engine cranking, dark green wire with orange tracer should be hot? The same circuit supplies voltage to the injectors and 02 heater circuit as well.

Can you check for codes? Do you have digital odometer? If not, you should be able to get some mil codes, if there are any? You cycle the ignition switch, on--off, on--off, on, then the mil starts flashing, you count the flashes to get the codes. You cycle the key just till the dash lites come on, no further.
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Monday, December 7th, 2020 AT 12:19 PM (Merged)
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MADDOGTC
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I am getting no injection spark and no fire not getting codes the thing ran and then stopped now no fire
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Monday, December 7th, 2020 AT 12:19 PM (Merged)
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THOMASMARTIN67
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I have a 1996 jeep cherokee country with a 4.0 straight 6 it has no spark from the coil but I have replaced plugs, plug wires tps sensor, map sensor, coil pick up sensor and ecm. What else can cause a no spark problem.
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Monday, December 7th, 2020 AT 12:19 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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This is likely a faulty Crankshaft Position Sensor (CPS)

Test the Crankshaft Position Sensor. It is located on the transmission bell housing at about the 2 O’clock position [if you are standing in front of the vehicle. Follow its wire up to the top of the intake manifold [this is where its connector is].
Disconnect the connector and use a digital ohmmeter to check the resistance at the “B” and “C” pins of the connector (the lead that goes to the sensor). It should show infinite resistance or “0”. Anything other than this reading means that the sensor is bad.

Another little “trick” to help narrow it down is to unplug the crankshaft position sensor for about 30 minutes, plug it back up and then try to start the engine. If it now starts, this means that the crankshaft position sensor is going bad and has an intermittent faulty. Replace it.
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Monday, December 7th, 2020 AT 12:19 PM (Merged)
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KYROB
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Electrical problem
1996 Jeep Cherokee 6 cyl Four Wheel Drive Automatic

What should the voltage be to the coil from the ICM? There are only two wires in the plug that plugs into the coil.
There is no spark coming from the coil.
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Monday, December 7th, 2020 AT 12:19 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Do you have battery voltage at coil positive terminal dark green and orange wire-if not check fuse no.20 30amp and test out the ASD relay it powers the coil. Also the injectors dark green and orange wire none there were right back to the ASD relay it powers it too.
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Monday, December 7th, 2020 AT 12:19 PM (Merged)
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MATTNRAIN
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The jeep died while driving. It has a new coil, cap and rotor, wires, and plugs. It still won't start and I checked for a spark, no luck. Amy ideas?
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Monday, December 7th, 2020 AT 12:22 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Check for power at the dark green and orange wire at the coil connector-No power there inspect and test the ASD Relay it powers the coil
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Monday, December 7th, 2020 AT 12:22 PM (Merged)
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I have no spark at coil with 12v at connector with ignition on. I have replaced PCM, Crank position sensor, coil, ASD relay, coil wire, cleaned and tightened all grounds. HELP?
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Monday, December 7th, 2020 AT 12:22 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Monday, December 7th, 2020 AT 12:22 PM (Merged)
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JOHN CANNING
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So I have changed the CPS sensor on the bell housing, and I have changed the Ignition pick-up sensor. The engine did start the night I put it in. The next day it started right up went for a quick drive came home parked it, and then it would not start. So checked the pick-up sensor and it cracked and the metal came out. Went and got another one put it in and it started right up. Came out next day and took it for ride came home parked it and it won't start again checked sensor and it was not damaged this time. Help please
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Monday, December 7th, 2020 AT 12:22 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Welcome to 2CarPros.

When you say pick up sensor, are you referring to the camshaft sensor in the distributor? If so, check the shaft for excessive wear or play. It sounds like the it may be moving around enough to hit the sensor.

Take a look at picture 1. It shows an exploded view of the distributor. Let me know if the cam sensor is what you are referring to.

Take care,
Joe
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Monday, December 7th, 2020 AT 12:22 PM (Merged)
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Hi Joe, yes the cam position sensor below the distributor cap. Thank you for your reply.
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Monday, December 7th, 2020 AT 12:22 PM (Merged)
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JOHN CANNING
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I did not see a photo.
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Monday, December 7th, 2020 AT 12:22 PM (Merged)
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Welcome back. I will try the picture again. Since the first sensor was damaged, make sure there is not play in the shaft which could cause it to damage the sensor.

Let me know.

Joe
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Monday, December 7th, 2020 AT 12:22 PM (Merged)
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Thank you, it was the distributor that had vertical play, and it was vibrating and damaging the p/u sensor.
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Monday, December 7th, 2020 AT 12:22 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Welcome back:

That will do it. I had a feeling it was something like that because of the damage done to the fist sensor you replaced. Is it running good now?

Let me know,

Joe
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Monday, December 7th, 2020 AT 12:22 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Electrical problem
1995 Jeep Cherokee 6 cyl Two Wheel Drive Automatic

just got up one morning and will not start. Wants to but getting no spark. Replaced plugs, wires, distributor cap, coil, coil pickup. Still no spark. Someone said crankshaft positioning indicator. Any other thoughts?
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