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Question: 2001 Toyota 4Runner,
mileage: 80,000 For the past two weeks since
having my car serviced (grease and oil
change) I have noticed a surging/losing
power problem. Initially the problem was
when I was just beginning to accelerate from
stop, then the pattern changed to running ok
when I first drove the car say 5km to the
supermarket and then when I came to drive
home it would surge/lose power/buck after a
period of the car stopped for 20 minutes.
After noticing this pattern, I repeated it
and the fault happened again. The car is an
automatic and I have had an automatic
transmission service, had the coil replaced
and the air intake temp sensor as this was
the only code the testing equipment showed.
After the new air intake temp sensor, the
pattern changed again to playing up
intermittently and today the mechanic
experienced the problem driving with the
testing equipment attached and it showed no
codes. I normally drive it in overdrive and
economy and the mechanic thought it might be
cycling in and out of overdrive but it still
plays up with the overdrive off. The
mechanics are stumped and are contemplating
a problem in the onboard computer. I have
noticed it is using more petrol than before.
Up until this problem, I have never had
anything go wrong with the car and it has
not lost a drop of oil or water in the six
years I have had it. It has had all its book
services. Prior to the service, the car
somehow picked up a bit of plastic on the
road and it is melted to the outside of the
exhaust. This is why I took it for a service
in the first place. Now I am wishing I never
took it to the garage at all, as the car ran
fine before it and played up after but the
garage assumes no responsibility for causing
it and says it is just coincidence. I have
also had the catalytic converter checked and
that is clear. Do you have any other ideas
as to the cause of the problem? I have
already spent over $1200 testing mechanics
theories and don't want to spend anymore
dead money. I would appreciate any help you
can give me.
Answer: This is difficult because
the computer can't detect a problem, your vehicle thinks
everything is ok. In reality what is happening is the
electrical component inside the
MAF sensor becomes contaminated by the impurities in
the air. These containments imbed themselves to
electrical component that senses the air flow causing
the sensor to be slightly off, but not enough to trigger
the MIL (malfunction indicator lamp). Replace the
MAF sensor with a new sensor and you're problem will
go away, plus your car get better mileage and
performance. (Mass Air Flow MAF sensor or Air Intake
Sensor AIS, depending on manufacture. It does the same
thing with different names).
Question: 1997 Chevrolet S10 Blazer,
mileage: 178,000. I'm having a "surging" problem on my
S10 blazer with I've already replaced the TPS, Oxygen
sensor, and installed a transmission oil cooler to help
fix another problem it's having with staying in
overdrive and constantly wants to downshift. The problem
also seems to get worse as the fuel level goes down. The
gas mileage is a little better, but I'm still getting
this "surging" which is also aggravating the
transmission problem. Anyhow, I'm now in the process of
replacing the in-tank fuel pump. Before I completely
re-installed the tank, I thought I would try to run the
pump in a pan of gas to make sure everything was
working. It worked okay. To make sure though that the
"real world" output was okay, I then installed the pump
in the tank with a few gallons of fuel in it. I then ran
the pump again with the tank level lying on the ground,
but the pump's output now "surged" again to the same
frequency I've been experiencing when driving the truck
k. It sounds like the pump stalls out and then "loads
down" as the screen picks up fuel again for a few
seconds and then stalls out again. When driving, it does
this surging especially the lower the fuel gets. I've
got a feeling now that this fuel pump replacement isn't
going to fix this problem. I checked to ensure that the
pumps pickup is reaching all the way to the bottom of
the tank (it's okay). The only thing I can think of is
that there was either a recall of the fuel-tanks/fuel
pump systems which was never done on this truck or the
fuel tank/fuel pump in my truck are incompatible or
wrong or something.
Answer: When we replace fuel
pumps on S10 Blazers, we remove the vibration dampener
that is located directly above the fuel pump and replace
it with a longer hose.
Question: 1998 Dodge Ram 1500
mileage: 104,000. Truck would buck and surge at various
speeds. Stalls every time you come to a stop at a light.
Took it to the shop, they put it on their computer - no
readings of anything wrong. The mechanic then drove the
car, came back and said it seems to be shutting off for
a second and coming back on. His diagnosis was an
ignition problem. Changed the ignition module and coil
pack. We did this a month ago. Car would still buck and
surge but stopped stalling. Car would drive fine
sometimes and other times it would buck and surge.
They seem to think it's electrical but don't know where
to go to start looking. They did talk to a tech that
told them there is a secondary wire going to the
computer that sometimes shorts out. Well they cut open
the wire harness going to the computer under the car and
found no bad wires. So if you guys have any ideas? This
car now drives, bucks and surges with the dashboard
going nuts every time you drive it; step on the pedal.
Answer: First scan the PCM for
trouble codes using a hand held
engine scanner, Then repair codes by
replacing failed sensor as needed. If no codes are
present then suspect the fuel pump.
Question: 1999 Pontiac Bonneville,
mileage: 60,000. My Pontiac Bonneville SE surges between
1700 and 2500 Rpms only when the car is completely
warmed up and going between speeds of 30-35 then 55-60
or anytime uphill at those low Rpms. The car seems to
loose power then immediately afterwards will surge back
to the RPM it should be. The dealer has replaced the
fuel filter, plugs, coils, wires, and air filter,
serviced the fuel injectors and replaced the torque
converter. They said they now want to replace the
transmission to see if that fixes the problem. My guess
is the engine is next. No error codes are displayed in
their diagnostics. So, they are "experimenting" until
they find it or I run out of money. I have already spent
over $2,000 for these "services". I noticed someone else
with a similar question to you with same car and you
suggested EGR valve. Any ideas?
Answer: First scan the PCM for
trouble codes using a hand held
engine scanner, Then repair codes by
replacing failed sensor as needed. If no codes are
present then what is happening is the electrical
component inside the
MAF sensor becomes contaminated by the impurities in
the air. These containments imbed themselves to
electrical component that senses the air flow causing
the sensor to be slightly off, but not enough to trigger
the MIL (malfunction indicator lamp). Replace the
MAF sensor with a new sensor and you're problem will
go away, plus your car get better mileage and
performance. (Mass Air Flow MAF sensor or Air Intake
Sensor AIS, depending on manufacture. It does the same
thing with different names).
Question: 2001 Chevrolet Corvette,
mileage: 84,000. My Vette seems to idle fine and cruises
fine but when I let off the accelerator from 55 mph, I
can feel the car surging. The rpms seem to fluctuate up
and down 2-4 hundred rpms until it gets down to a normal
idle. I am thinking of replacing the IAC (idle air
control).
Answer: Scan the computer for
codes. It is possible you have a weak oxygen sensor.
Question: 2002 Nissan Sentra,
mileage: 135,000. Car surges and stutters if speed is
between 50 mph to 60 mph when feathering the
accelerator. Example: Coming down off the Chesapeake Bay
Bridge in Md. when not accelerating but not decelerating
between 50 mph to 60 mph the car starts
surging/stuttering. Have replaced all ignition
parts/fuel filter. Car runs smooth otherwise. Thanks
Answer: First scan the PCM for
trouble codes using a hand held
engine scanner, Then repair codes by
replacing failed sensor as needed. If no codes are
present then the EGR valve may be cycling opening and
closing. Replacing the valve may cure the surging. It is
also possible, if your car is equipped with air
conditioning, that the air conditioning compressor may
be cycling on and off, lugging the motor.
Question: 2001 Ford Escort Wagon,
mileage: 59,000. Hello, I Just bought this car with
58,000 on the odometer, it starts, runs, idles and
accelerates perfectly, the only problem I have is the
engine seems to surge at around 40 mph. Tonight I went
on an extended highway drive having all of 1000 miles
experience with the car, and made a conscious effort to
keep the car at speed and noticed a surge in the
engine/car speed, I steadied my foot on the accelerator
as best I could and noticed the car would go up a few
miles per hour and settle back down to the set speed
only to surge again a few minutes later and settle down
to the set speed again. I now realize that the reason
the car was slowing down was because I would
automatically adjust for the speed surge by releasing
some pressure on the accelerator, of course after 5 or
10 surges, and releasing a little pressure every time I
felt the car increase in speed I'd be down 15 or 20 Mph
from my intended speed. As part of the purchasing
agreement I took the car to a Ford dealership and had it
checked out, the wrench replaced the mass air flow
sensorr and also replaced a couple of plugs and plug
wires, and otherwise was given a clean bill of health.
Any ideas? Thanks,
Answer: First scan the PCM for
trouble codes using a hand held
engine scanner, Then repair codes by
replacing failed sensor as needed. If no codes are
present then suspect the oxygen sensor.
Question: 1999
Dodge Caravan, mileage: 178,000. Only after
highway speeds, then when coming into traffic and
creeping along at slow speeds I notice as if the feeling
of the vehicle pulling, then relax, pulling, then relax,
while all this time I keep the accelerator steady.
It's like having out-of-round wheels, only from front to
back instead of up and down. Is there an
explanation for this?
Answer: It sounds like you have drive
axles that need replacing to repair problem.
Question:
2004 Nissan Altima, mileage: 50,000. The problem
started with the idle speed fluctuating from about 1000
to 2000 rpm when the vehicle was sitting at an idle.
This fluctuation was fairly rapid (about every 5-10
seconds). Then after a couple of hundred
miles, the idle speed stayed at 2000-2400 rpm. Now
when accelerating, the engine surges terribly and is
getting bad fuel mileage. When the surge occurs a
small amount of black smoke puffs out of the exhaust
pipe. There is also some kind of relay under the
hood, over the right fender beside the battery making a
rapid irregular clicking noise. Could this be
related? I think the problem is in the emission
control system but I'm definitely in over my head.
Can you help? Thanks a lot!
Answer: First scan the PCM for
trouble codes using a hand held
engine scanner, Then repair codes by
replacing failed sensor as needed. If no codes are
present then suspect a failed fuel pressure regulator.
Question:
1998 Chevrolet Lumina mileage: 168,000. Please
help. My car has been to the local GM dealer 8 times.
When traveling at highway speeds 55-65 mph. With
the A/C on. Ambient temp at 60 Degrees or above
and going uphill. The car surges. You can
see the tach go up from 2000 to 2200 rpm and back.
As soon as your on level ground car runs fine. The
dealer has replaced Plugs, Wires, air filter, fuel
filter and it hasn't changed. Also, it shows
no fault codes. Please tell me what you think it
could be. Thanks!
Answer: First scan the PCM for
trouble codes using a hand held
engine scanner, Then repair codes by
replacing failed sensor as needed. If no codes are
present then what is happening is the electrical
component inside the
MAF sensor becomes contaminated by the impurities in
the air. These containments imbed themselves to
electrical component that senses the air flow causing
the sensor to be slightly off, but not enough to trigger
the MIL (malfunction indicator lamp). Replace the
MAF sensor with a new sensor and you're problem will
go away, plus your car get better mileage and
performance. (Mass Air Flow MAF sensor or Air Intake
Sensor AIS, depending on manufacture. It does the same
thing with different names).
Question:
1998 Chevrolet 1500 4x4 truck, mileage: 195,000.
Replaced engine has about 200 miles on it and computer
was replaced recently. Engine has started random
surging (especially when cold outside), sometimes while
being driven and other times on startup. Truck has
to be shut off and then won't restart (starter and
battery are fine). I didn't see any references to
surging in other fuel injector, pump or filter
solutions. The dealer can't help, as there are no
computer codes showing. Any advise?
Answer:
If no codes are present then what is
happening is the electrical component inside the
MAF sensor becomes contaminated by the impurities in
the air. These containments imbed themselves to
electrical component that senses the air flow causing
the sensor to be slightly off, but not enough to trigger
the MIL (malfunction indicator lamp). Replace the
MAF sensor with a new sensor and you're problem will
go away, plus your car get better mileage and
performance. (Mass Air Flow MAF sensor or Air Intake
Sensor AIS, depending on manufacture. It does the same
thing with different names). 
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