Engine will not crank over?

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FRED RUNYON
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My 2005 pontiac grand am still will not crank, even after having the battery charged and installing a new starter. The old starter showed bad on a tester at auto zone. Any help would be greatly appreciated
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Wednesday, March 4th, 2009 AT 1:23 PM

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BMRFIXIT
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Lets see if the starter is getting a trigger signal this guide will show you how.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/starter-not-working-repair

and this guide will help you reset the alarm in case that is the problem as well.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-reset-a-security-system

Please run down these guides and report back.
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Wednesday, March 4th, 2009 AT 6:33 PM
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FRED RUNYON
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Yep, the new starter we got was defective, got a AC delco unit turns over great! Thanks for the guides.
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Thursday, March 5th, 2009 AT 5:10 PM
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GOLFERGIRLJESS
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I have a 2005 pontiac grand am, I went to start it after class this morning and it wouldn't start. All the lights came on but not the radio. This has happened before but the radio did come on the problem was that it was not in park all the way. I took it out of park and put it back in about 5 times. Also yesterday on my way to class, the car was making a weird clicking noise that sounded like my turn signal was on but it was much faster then it would slow and it stopped after 5 min. I don't know if that info would help.
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Friday, July 31st, 2020 AT 9:48 AM (Merged)
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Are you saying it cranks good but won't start or it won't even crank? If it cranks good but won't start, have a helper crank it while visually check for spark at the plugs. If you have spark everywhere, use a gage and check fuel pressure. Can't rule your security system, at the moment, is the lite on or flashing?
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Friday, July 31st, 2020 AT 9:48 AM (Merged)
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It doesn't crank. It gives a little murmuring sound for about 5 sec then it stops.
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Friday, July 31st, 2020 AT 9:48 AM (Merged)
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JDL
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Have the battery tested and the charging system. If you have a digital multimeter, we can help you do some testing.
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Friday, July 31st, 2020 AT 9:48 AM (Merged)
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My car wont start and the starter in good the battery is brand new and the quel is good too I dont know why my car wont start all the electrical starts my radio and the lights and the locks and the windows all work the engine will make no noise and I have no idea whats wrong with this car
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Friday, July 31st, 2020 AT 9:48 AM (Merged)
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No crank at all/nothing/nada:

Could be the starter, starter relay, park and neutral switch and ignition switch assuming the battery and connections are good.
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Friday, July 31st, 2020 AT 9:48 AM (Merged)
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JAYDOG32173
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Was fine driving and then gauges stopped working and it started cutting out when stepping on gas, would not shift in into lower gear in auto transmission while driving. Now it will not turn over but can hear fuel pump turn on. What ever happened did blow one fuse, now gauges work. I can start it from starter it will start and then shut off every time. I have switched all relay fuses around and did not work, battery is good and has over a half tank of gas in it plus a new starter. Replaced the whole ignition but still did same thing so put the old one back in and took used one back. I was having problems with security having to wait until it stopped blinking and then it would start but before this light has been stuck on. If you have any idea about this problem I would greatly appreciate it, thank you.
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Friday, July 31st, 2020 AT 9:49 AM (Merged)
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KEN L
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Hello,

It sounds like the immobilizer is engaged. Does the security light flash when you try to crank it over? Here are the wiring diagrams for the starter motor and security system so we can see how it works. There is a starter relay that needs to be checked. Here is a guide to help us get started:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-an-electrical-relay-and-wiring-control-circuit

Check out the diagrams (below). Please let us know what happens.

Cheers, Ken
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Friday, July 31st, 2020 AT 9:49 AM (Merged)
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CHEVELLE69
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I drove my car to the store and when I got in to leave my car wouldn’t crank. I can hear the starter make a click noise. My headlights and radio and power windows work fine. Please help.
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Friday, July 31st, 2020 AT 9:49 AM (Merged)
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Welcome to 2CarPros.

First, understand that it could be a weak battery even though the other things are working. I am going to provide a few basic tests to determine if it is a connection issue, weak battery, or the starter. I suspect it may be the starter, but lets be sure.

First, confirm the battery terminals are clean and tight.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/everything-goes-dead-when-engine-is-cranked

Next, load test the battery following this link:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/car-battery-load-test

If the battery terminals are clean and tight, the battery checks good, then I suspect it is the starter. Follow this test:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/starter-not-working-repair

Here are a few links you may find helpful when testing the starter and wiring:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-use-a-test-light-circuit-tester

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-use-a-voltmeter

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-wiring

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Please understand that since you hear only a click from the starter, any of the three things I mentioned could be the issue. If you determine the starter is bad, here is a link that explains in general how one is replaced:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-replace-a-starter-motor

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Here are directions specific to your vehicle for replacement:

2005 Pontiac Grand AM V6-3.4L VIN E
Procedures

STARTER MOTOR REPLACEMENT

REMOVAL PROCEDURE
1. Disconnect the negative battery cable.
2. Raise vehicle. Refer to Vehicle Lifting.
3. Remove the flywheel inspection cover bolts.
4. Remove the flywheel inspection cover.

pic 1

5. Remove the electrical connections from the starter motor.

pic 2

6. Remove the starter motor mounting bolts.
7. Remove the starter motor.

INSTALLATION PROCEDURE

pic 3

1. Install the starter motor to the engine.

NOTE:
- Before installing the starter motor to the engine, tighten the nut next to the cap on the solenoid BAT terminal. If this terminal is not tight in the solenoid cap, the cap may be damaged during installation of electrical connections and cause the starter motor to fail later.
- Refer to Fastener Notice in Service Precautions.

2. Install the starter motor mounting bolts.

Tighten the bolts to 40 Nm (30 lb ft).

pic 4

3. Install the electrical connection to the battery terminal on the solenoid.

Tighten the battery terminal nut to 17 Nm (13 lb ft).

4. Install the electrical connections to the S terminal on the solenoid.

Tighten solenoid S terminal nut to 3 Nm (27 lb in).

5. Install the flywheel inspection cover.
6. Install the flywheel inspection cover bolts.

Tighten the flywheel inspection cover bolts to 10 Nm (89 lb in).

7. Lower vehicle.
8. Connect the negative battery cable.

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Let me know if this helps or if you have other questions.

Take care,
Joe
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Check for loose wires like starter cable, engine ground, body ground etx.
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Also try resetting anti theft on this. See pic
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Friday, July 31st, 2020 AT 9:49 AM (Merged)
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NIKKKI
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I have had the starter tested and that was not it. Any help would be appreciated. This is the second time it has done this, the first time it was able to be started by doing something to the starter. However; this time it did not work. I had the starter taken off and tested when tested it was fine. The lights and everything inside works it will just not turn over.
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Friday, July 31st, 2020 AT 9:49 AM (Merged)
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If the starter is good, you need to check to see if there is power to it in the start position. If there isn't, you need to work back to the starter relay, ignition switch. NOTE: Always make sure the battery is fully charged and all connections are clean and tight.
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Friday, July 31st, 2020 AT 9:49 AM (Merged)
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STARTING PROBLEM: 2004 Pontiac GrandAm SE; 3.4L V6; Fuel Injected; VIN ID "E" 102,000miles; Was running fine, then wouldn't start. Turn key to start - NOTHING. No solenoid click, no starter turning. Battery OK (power windows, lights, wipers, etc. All work fine). Jump-staring from another vehicle didn't work. Tried direct "jump" across starter/solenoid terminals. Solenoid engaged, starter ran, & engine turned over (sounded OK), but even w/ key ON, engine didn't start. Checked relays & fuses - all seem OK. I'm stumped. Possible ignition key/switch problem? Open to all suggestions - especially those that are simple, I can do myself & are free/cheap! THANKS!
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Friday, July 31st, 2020 AT 9:49 AM (Merged)
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Try resetting anti theft like it shows in pic, GM changed anti theft around the age of your vehicle but this may not be correct. Ifyou have a manual check in that as well fro resetting security system. A lot of times with no starts this is the problem. If it still doesn't stat have a pro scan it as it still may be a security issue but he will need to find problem with it.
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Friday, July 31st, 2020 AT 9:49 AM (Merged)
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Thanks for your quick response! The Dashboard Security light had crossed my mind as a possible cause of the starting problem. It's been ON constantly since I had some cooling system work done on this car last November. However, the car's started & run OK since then, so I've ignored the light. Anyhow, I tried your suggested fix and, WOW, it worked! My Grand Am now promptly starts & runs fine. Restarted 3-4 times. All OK. And, best of all - that pesky Security light is no longer glaring at me from the dashboard. MANY THANKS & have a great week! JM
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Friday, July 31st, 2020 AT 9:49 AM (Merged)
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Security light has been flashing every once in a while. Yesterday, after running a couple of errands, the car wouldn't start at all. Not sure if it's the antitheft system, starter, calanoid, or something else. Had to be towed home. Any suggestions?
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