Mechanics

GLOW PLUGS

1982 Mercedes Benz 300sd

Electrical problem
1982 Mercedes Benz 300sd 4 cyl Two Wheel Drive Automatic 270, 74 miles

Replaced all 5 glow plugs. Because 3 were open. Ran engine approxmately one and one half hrs. Stoped engine, Tried to start engine next day. No go. Checked glow plugs, 3 were open.

Would timer relay be staying in the closed, and if so why are not all the plugs burning out. Checked out all test presented in the Service Manual, Engine 617.95 Turbo Diesel


updated 2-23-09
Hi Guys
Thanks very much for your response. I have already installed 5 bosh glow plugs and the new three minute timer relay, sold as a unit.
I think I know what happened. Changed out the old plugs and installed 5 AC delcos. My frist mistake. It was a cold day so I gave it a two or three second shot of starting fluid. My second mistake. The motor started then, but refused any future atempts. Plug's 2, 3. And 4 were very difficult to remove as the glow end had burned and expanded, obviously from the intense heat of the either and current in the plug. The three center plugs must have

received the most starting fluid.
All's well now, she fires right up and purr's like a kitten.

Thank you again for your response
Avatar
Migno
January 20, 2009.



Okay listen very closely, the glow plug system on a Mercedes Benz is very complicated you have 5 (five) glow plugs one for every cylinder, when you turn the key on, power is sent to the glow plug relay, which then send power to the glow plugs, it has a timer about10 seconds, if the goal plug really malfunctions, it will burn out your glow plugs, but that rarely happens, but it does happen and maybe that's what happened to you but I doubt it!!! because it would've burned out all of your glow plugs not just 4 (four) of them.
The factory installed two different types of glow plug systems on the same cars,
1. The first system has a resistor on the right fender that looks like this


http://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/307270_Idaho_010_1.jpg


2. The other system does not have one
3. Both systems have a glow plug relay on the left fender that looks like this


http://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/307270_Mercedes_Benz_004_1.jpg


when you remove the cover of the glow plug relay you will notice two plugs, a large one and a small one and of course an 80 amp fuse, the large wire with a bolt on it is the main power wire


http://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/307270_Mercedes_Benz_005_1.jpg


now this is the way it works:
a. You turn the key on, and you look at the Glow plug light on your dash, ( if the light does not come on that indicate that you have a burned-out glow plugs) if the vehicle does not start, first thing you do is check the fuse on the glow plug relay, if the fuse is good get a test light and check power at the main power wire if you have power there, ( and it will only have power when the key is turned on) if you have the power to the relay and the fuse is good, removes the big plug from the relay,(and be very careful that you did not break anything) the big plug is the glow plugs wired into the relay separately, take your test light and hooked it to the + (positive) side of the battery, NOT the -- (negative) side, then with your test light check the big plug each glow plug, if the light turns on the glow plug is good, if the light does not turn on the glow plug is burned out, the plug is number one through five and it will indicate which glow plug is burned out, it only takes one glow plug burned-out to make it hard to start.
furthermore, if the timing has changed, due to a stretching timing chain it will also burn out your glow plugs

Dr Loot
Feb 22, 2009.