1999 Ford Windstar Repair Question
P0320 99 won't start when hot
Well, I think I have to call a locksmith and do the: Key Programming - Erase All Keys & Program 2 Keys Currently I only have one key available.
Well, I called a locksmith and he has the scan tool. he is coming over later and I will let you know how it works out. $180 to relearn the computer and give me 2 keys.
phew !! I think he could have explained this too you in his advertisement ? ... let me know
HAPPY NEW YEAR
Well, The guy came and he had a T-code scanner. he hooked it up and entered the computer 10 minute access. After the 10 minutes his scanner's indtructions said to disconnect the scanner then just cyle the key from run to off then start the car. My van still won't start. The pats theft light now flashes fast with the key in the run position. I don't think his scanner had relearn capability. I am at a loss now. How much will the dealer charge?
I would have thought if his scanner got into the system he could have programmed the keys ? ... you mentioned that the theft light is now flashing fast .. it should have been flashing fast all along ...ever since you put the new PCM in and tried to start the vehicle it should have triggered the PATS straight away if it was the key's preventing start up ? ... I would think your looking at around the $300 mark for ford to reprogram as they will also need to sell you "2" key's ....did the tech follow ALL the steps below using "2" key's or 3 even because you already had one ??
PROGRAMMING TWO KEYS/ERASE ALL KEY CODES
NOTE:This procedure is used when a customer needs keys programmed into system and does not have 2 programmed ignition keys available, or when programmed ignition keys have been lost and/or ignition switch assembly has been replaced. This procedure will erase all programmed ignition keys from memory and prevent vehicle from starting until 2 keys have been programmed. Ignition keys must have correct mechanical key cut for vehicle and must be an encoded key. If additional key(s) are to be programmed, perform PROGRAMMING SPARE KEY(S) WITH TWO PROGRAMMED KEYS . If remaining keys are with customer and not with vehicle, instruct customer to see owner's manual to program spare key(s).
Insert Ford Service Function (FSF) card into NGS tester. Turn ignition switch from OFF to RUN position. With NGS tester connected to vehicle, enter instrument cluster then select SECURITY ACCESS PROCEDURE. This procedure will take 10 minutes to perform. After the security access procedure has been completed, a new menu will be displayed with command options. Select IGNITION KEY CODE ERASE.
Turn ignition switch to OFF position and disconnect NGS tester. Insert first encoded ignition key into ignition lock cylinder. Turn ignition switch to RUN position for 3 seconds. Turn ignition switch to OFF position and remove first encoded key.
Within 5 seconds, insert second encoded ignition key into ignition lock cylinder. Turn ignition switch to RUN position for 3 seconds. Turn ignition switch to OFF position and remove second encoded key. Both encoded ignition keys should now start vehicle.
SECURITY ACCESS PROCEDURE
NOTE:Security access must be granted to erase ignition keys, enable/disable spare key programming switch, or perform parameter resets for instrument cluster and PCM. This procedure has a 10-minute time delay prior to granting security access during which the New Generation Star (NGS) tester must remain connected to vehicle. After security access has been granted, security access command menu is displayed which offers various command options. Multiple security access commands can be executed (if necessary) prior to exiting security access command menu. Execution of all necessary security access commands prior to exiting command menu avoids the performance of an additional security access procedure and the associated 10-minute time delay.
Insert Ford Service Function (FSF) card into NGS tester. Turn ignition switch from OFF to RUN position. With NGS tester connected to vehicle, enter instrument cluster then select SECURITY ACCESS PROCEDURE. This procedure will take 10 minutes to perform. After the security access procedure has been completed, a new menu will be displayed with command options. Select as many functions as required before exiting this menu. Once this menu is exited, security access procedure must be performed again to perform additional commands.
The thing is that after the 10 minutes his tester just said to disconnect tester. he was a locksmith and not very skilled. I had to watch and advise the whole procedure. his tester did not do this: After the security access procedure has been completed, a new menu will be displayed with command options. Select IGNITION KEY CODE ERASE. I did not see a new menu pop up.
he needs to follow those instructions i gave you !! he has to go into another menu to erase the key's first ....call him back or call someone else ... it's got to be cheaper than fords who will want you to have the car towed to them as well ??
ps. congrats on the promotion ..!!
Iv'e been thinking (a dangerous thing to do sometimes ..ha ..) about this during the night ... and we don't really know if the "new" PCM has any key's programmed at all .. it may/may not have details of vehicle it came from .. or has the seller completely wiped it clean of other vehicles memory ? if its wiped clean then we have the tech do the following steps ...(which i think is what he tried to do)... or we could err on the safe side and have him erase all key's just in case ? .. do you agree ? If the following is what the tech tried then technically it should have worked for the 2 new (unprogrammed)key's .. but not for the key you already had because that key needs reprogamming .. if you get them mixed up somewhere along the line .. then the old key will not start the vehicle so it's best to have them all done at the same time ?
PROGRAMMING SPARE KEY WITHOUT PROGRAMMED KEY(S)
NOTE:This procedure is used when customer needs extra keys programmed and 2 programmed keys are not available, but system has 2 ignition keys programmed. A maximum of 8 keys can be programmed. If 8 keys are already programmed, this procedure will not allow any more keys to be programmed. The number of programmed keys can be determined by accessing instrument cluster PID NUMKEYS with NGS tester.
Insert unprogrammed key in ignition and turn ignition switch to RUN position. Connect New Generation Star (NGS) tester to Data Link Connector (DLC), located under instrument panel next to steering column. Insert Ford Service Function (FSF) card in NGS tester. Perform security access procedure. See SECURITY ACCESS PROCEDURE . Select IGNITION KEY CODE PROGRAM. Turn ignition switch to OFF position. Disconnect NGS tester. Key should now be programmed and be able to start vehicle.
do you know if the guy with this problem ever fixed it? i am having the same exact problem...............how was it solved??? please help!!
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