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CAR RUNNING AND STARTER CRANKING AT THE SAM

1994 Ford Tempo

Electrical problem
1994 Ford Tempo 6 cyl Two Wheel Drive Automatic 150000 miles

Hi, I Just replaced the starter and well solenoid of my car. The car started but at the same time the starter also was cranking. I turned off the car, still the starter was cranking. The wires are connected properly. I need your assistance. Thanks.I am guessing the ignition switch is at fault but then again I don't know if it is.
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Jediray15
April 4, 2010.



I'm free help, so you may want to wait for another reply. Since this is a strange problem, you should be more thorough in your information! But it sounds like you wired it wrong! Or the starter is defective? Or maybe wrong starter for car/year? You didn't specify new or rebuilt? You didn't say if old starter was working fine with the ignition switch until it failed? You didn't say why you replaced starter? I have no means of judging your competence as a self repair person other than your say so? I usually have starter tested before I install. Even if brand new!

Tiny
Fixitmr
Apr 4, 2010.
Hi fixitmr and jediray15. Three heads are always better than two.

Along with the possibility of it being wired wrong, pull off the red / blue stripe wire plugged onto the solenoid. If the solenoid turns off, (and the starter stops cranking), reconnect the red / blue wire. If it starts cranking right away, suspect the ignition switch. If continues cranking with the red / blue wire off, the solenoid contacts have arced and welded themselves together. Resinstalling the old one will solve the problem. If the solenoid remains off until you turn the ignition switch to " crank", then it stays on again, you have a solenoid with a second small terninal for the neutral safety switch circuit and those two small wires are turned around.

The ignition switch causes a lot of problems, but not usually for the starter circuit. There are four small plastic pins that ride on a rotating cam. They push on four contacts. When those contacts overheat, they cause the plastic pins to melt and the affected contacts will remain on.

Caradiodoc

Caradiodoc
Apr 4, 2010.
Thanks for your reply Mrfixit and Cardio. Both of your advises were good and applied. It work for a little while then again the cranking started again with the motor running. I switched the car off but the cranking kept going so I took the black terminal off the battery to keep the car off. Before this problem everything work fine, then the car just didn't start one day and the licensed mechanic said it was the starter hm. The rebuilt started was tested. I connected the wires properly and for added measure I also replace the old well solenoid. But here is something WEIRD, I fooled around with the car's ignition (turned switched on and off quite a few times) while the car was off the battery and then I plugged the cable back to the battery. The cranking stopped and the car started without any problem. I am very sure the problem will return. Your help is much appreciated.

Tiny
Jediray15
Apr 4, 2010.
Hmm. I'm thinking the ignition switch is probably not the problem because they are usually not intermittent. They usually act up continuously. Next time this happens, pull that red / bue wire off the solenoid and see what happens.

Caradiodoc

Caradiodoc
Apr 4, 2010.
I dont know the specifics of 6cyl model as I have only worked on 4cyl myself. The 4cyl has a solenoid on the fender well and 1 on the starter depending on stater model in use. This can make the wiring confusing especially since your other hot wires for car are put on the fender mounted solenoid. Basically on starter only solenoid all hot wires go to top large post and key start is a small rubber plug or connector going to small post beside it. What exactly do you mean when you say you changed solenoid? Where/why? Dont rebuild come with solenoid? Also could you describe how many posts on solenoid and what colors/how many wires you have on them?

Tiny
Fixitmr
Apr 5, 2010.
Fixitmr, the solenoid was on the fender well. All the wires but two has it's own terminal. The car is running so far without the starter cranking at the same time. I might just take a look at the ignition switch. Do you know how to get to the ignition switch?

Tiny
Jediray15
Apr 5, 2010.
Change ignition switch go here. http://www.2carpros.com/forum/1993-ford-tempo-ignition-switch-vt441202.html
so your tempo has 2 solenoids also like the 4 cyl ? like i said, this can be wiring nightmare? but if you copied exactly like original then that does make it a puzzler.idid a google search and found that ford had recalled tempos for bad ignition switches at 1 time? so maybe yous is 1 of them? the problem was stated as no start.

Tiny
Fixitmr
Apr 5, 2010.