2003 F-150 Supercrew 4WD problems

Tiny
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My 03 FX-4 5.4L Supercrew has a problem. There are no error codes thrown.

Transfer case seems to engage just fine and the dash lights indicate that the system is engaged. There are no problems engaging 2H, 4H, or 4L. Except that once in awhile the front axle either mysteriously disengages or won't engage. And when this happens the system will not engage again until the truck has made a couple of tight turns on dry pavement. Which isn't always available obviously!

In the snow the 4WD only works about 95% of the time. I think that I isolated the problem to the front axle ESOF vacuum control solenoids and/or actuator this week, and $200 spent at the dealership to diagnose it says that there is "muck" (that was the term given) inside the vacuum system and they want to replace both solenoids and the actuator. However these items all three pass all of the Helm manual tests for voltage, resistance, and function while on the lift and I cannot hear see or feel anything like "muck" inside the system.

Today, I drove it for two hours on snow covered fire roads and it worked fine. Except twice. Two times the system failed to go from 2WD back into 4WD (but the dash lights indicated that the transfer case was engaged) and continued to refuse to turn over the front wheels until I finally exited to bare pavement and did a couple of hard turns, at which point the axle then dropped into 4WD just fine.

Any ideas on what this might be? I thought maybe it was a vacuum leak on the 4WD solenoid side of the system but all connections look good. If it is a vacuum loss it would have to be sporadic, which doesn't make much sense either.

I've now flushed the front axle oil twice with Mobil 1 75w90 synthetic, once at 30k miles and now again at 52k miles. There are no odd noises.

The problem has existed the whole time I have owned the truck which has been two years and 25k miles. Fortunately it doesn't snow all that much here.

I'm stumped.
Wednesday, February 7th, 2007 AT 7:14 PM

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Tiny
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You might have the hubs them selves checked out, it sounds like one of them are engaging and disengaging.
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Wednesday, February 7th, 2007 AT 7:20 PM
Tiny
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The system doesn't have locking hubs, only the axle locks and unlocks by way of a small lever shaft that is moved about 20 degrees back and forth by the vacuum driven axle mounted actuator.

The half-shafts are both permanently fixed to each wheel by way of CV joints.

One thing that I have not done is to remove the actuator guard, mark the 2wd and 4wd positions with a crayon, drive it without the guard and then crawl underneath and look when it stops working out on the trail to see where the actuator is holding the lever.

Another possibility is that the system just doesn't like to engage when all four wheels are on a slippery surface. But that isn't the case with my 2006 Expedition.
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Wednesday, February 7th, 2007 AT 7:32 PM
Tiny
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You know the prolem might be the part in the axle that the act, is hooked to there should be a small fork that is around a coller that slides back and forth to engage the fwd, and it only locks the one side when it engages so that part might not be working right.
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Wednesday, February 7th, 2007 AT 7:53 PM
Tiny
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I also have a 2003 F150 Supercrew with the same symptoms. No 4x4 until several sharp turns on dry pavement. Have you found a solution to your problem?
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Tuesday, December 9th, 2008 AT 3:07 PM
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I also have a 2003 F150 Supercrew that has intermitent 4wd. I had the computer module replaced for around 400 bucks but that didn't do the trick. I can hear the 4wd kicking in and out as I drive down the road. Any additional insight into this problem would be greatly appreciated.
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Saturday, February 14th, 2009 AT 7:00 PM
Tiny
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This is an ancient thread, but I wanted to follow up.

My 2003 F150 XLT Super Crew FX4 have similar symptoms. The 4WD seems to engage and disengage randomly. After doing some online research I checked the vacuum system and the 4WD actuator. Both look fine, so I decided it was most likely the troublesome 4WD actuator fork, which tends to break.

I removed the axle tube which is located between the differential and the CV joint on the passenger side of the vehicle. Lo and behold, the fork looked fine. The plastic ears were intact, and it moved freely in and out to engage and disengage the 4WD, like it should. I scratched my head, concluded it wasn't the culprit and proceeded to put it all back together. However, when reassembling I noticed that I had to spin the flange that mounts to the CV joint (which again spins the internal hub in the axle tube) in order to align it so that the actuator fork would fully engage with the hub thus driving the front wheel. I aligned it and put it all back together then decided to test the fork action again, via the lever. It would not engage 4WD (which is when it retracts or pushes in). It was clear that the two hubs were not aligned so it would be stuck in 2WD. I spun the wheel a bit and of course, after a bit of spinning, it aligned and engaged the 4WD.

Surely that's not normal if the idea is that one should engage 4WD only when the truck is not moving? Is my axle tube bad? Something else bad?

Or maybe I'm just not understanding it correctly?
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Monday, January 3rd, 2022 AT 12:47 PM
Tiny
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If I am understanding you correctly then that is normal. On this truck when you engage 4WD high, it is what is called shift on the fly. That means you can be moving, and the shift fork will put pressure on the joint and when it is lined up it will drop in place.

Also, the super crew should have electronic shifting, is that correct?

If it does then when you are driving down the road, how are you telling that it is going in and out of 4WD?

Is the light shifting back to 2WD or does it just feel different?

I would suggest we start with checking for codes even if the check engine light is not on.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/checking-a-service-engine-soon-or-check-engine-light-on-or-flashing

Also, I am attaching the wiring diagram that will help with the testing that we are most likely going to have to do.

You have disconnected solenoids that could be causing issues but if these are the issue, I would expect it will still read 4WD on the indicator but just not engage the front wheels any longer.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-check-wiring

We are going to have check power at the GEM to find out if these are remaining engaged.

Please run through this and let me know what questions you have. Thanks
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Tuesday, January 4th, 2022 AT 3:23 PM
Tiny
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Thank you for your quick response.

I better understand how it works now. I put it all together Monday and ran a quick test before dropping the truck back on the ground.

My truck has an electronic switch knob on the dash. 2H, 4H, 4L. The 4WD actuator operates as it should when switching from 2H to 4H. The lever moves the collar in and out fully (it stops at the small E-clip, as it should). The operation is smooth. I engaged the 4H l, saw it and heard it lock in and spun the passenger side wheel and saw the driver side wheel spin in the opposite direction. So far so good.

I haven't road tested the truck after lubing it up and putting it back together (out of town) but what used to happen is that a soon as the wheels are turned the truck "chug" and struggle to move at all. Swap back to 2H and it was fine. It feels like the 4WD works as long as there is zero resistance, as in turning or any obstacles on the road.

The vacuum seems fine, as in there being vacuum in the right places, but I'm not sure if there's enough vacuum. Is more vacuum needed if there is resistance at the wheels? It doesn't sound right to me; I'd imagine if there is enough vacuum to operate the actuator that would be sufficient to keep it in 4WD.

I checked the two solenoids and they both seem fine. Ohms good, voltage seemed good. The vacuum reservoir didn't appear to have any cracks, but I didn't test it for leaks.

Anything spring to mind with this additional information?
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Wednesday, January 5th, 2022 AT 3:13 AM
Tiny
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Okay. Just to confirm. When you have the wheels lifted it works perfectly? Then when you put it on the ground and engage the front the vehicle does not want to move? Does it make noise, like it is grinding? Does the 4WD actually engage or is it binding prior to engaging?

We may need to remove the front cover and check for metal. Clearly it appears there is something that is preventing this from operating when there is tension on the vehicle. It could be as simple as a weak actuator, but I would just want to make sure we don't have an issue in the diff before we get too far down the line.

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/differential-service

Please let me know what questions you have.
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Thursday, January 6th, 2022 AT 11:21 AM

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