Charging too much for brakes

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My friend who helped me to pay for a repair on the brakes stated to me that the mechanic at Westminster Garage on route 2A in Westminster, MA is charging too much for brake I would like to do them myself can you help me. Thanks for reading.
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Sunday, May 31st, 2015 AT 12:31 PM

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Tiny
DANNY L
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Hello, I'm Danny.

Here is the information you requested. Here is a tutorial on how to remove and replace rear brake pads and rotors:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-replace-rear-brake-pads-and-rotors

Here is a YouTube video from our site on how to compress the rear caliper piston when performing a rear brake job:

https://youtu.be/j8YwfSKEzZo

I've attached picture steps below on how to replace the brake pads on your vehicle. Hope this helps and thanks for using 2CarPros.
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Monday, March 1st, 2021 AT 8:06 PM
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We have only serviced the car at one express lube each time it has been service and the only other time was to replace the battery. After the last oil change I noticed the brake pedal did not completely stop as I applied my brakes. I asked my dad to check it out since I am in college he got in the car and was very angry because it was unsafe for me to drive. My dad drove it and told me I need brakes but I want to do them myself.
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Thursday, March 11th, 2021 AT 1:39 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Hi,

Replacing the rear brakes and rotors isn't too hard of a job. When you do it yourself, make sure to purchase a lifetime brake pad. That way, you won't have to pay for them again in the future.

You can expect rear brake pads to last approximately 30,000 miles. However, that can change based on driving habits and terrain.

First, here is a link that shows how in general they are replaced. You can use this as a guide:

https://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-replace-rear-brake-pads-and-rotors

Here are the directions specific to your vehicle. The pics below correlate with the directions.

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2005 Dodge Neon L4-2.0L VIN C
Rear
Vehicle Brakes and Traction Control Disc Brake System Brake Pad Service and Repair Procedures Removal and Installation Rear
REAR
BRAKE PADS/SHOES - REAR DISC

REMOVAL

NOTE: Before proceeding, Refer to WARNING.

1. Raise the vehicle.
2. Remove both rear tire and wheel assemblies from vehicle.

NOTE: Perform Step 3 through Step 7 on each side of vehicle to complete shoe set removal. In some cases, it may be necessary to retract the caliper piston in its bore a small amount in order to provide sufficient clearance between the shoes and the rotor to easily remove the caliper from the knuckle. This can usually be accomplished before the guide pin bolts are removed, by grasping the rear of the caliper and pulling outward working with the guide pins, thus retracting the piston. Never push on the piston directly as it may get damaged.

pic 1

3. Remove the two caliper guide pin bolts (Fig. 28).

pic 2

4. Remove the caliper assembly from the brake adapter by first rotating the top of the caliper away from the rotor, and then lifting the caliper assembly off the machined abutment on the adapter (Fig. 29).

pic 3

5. Hang the brake caliper from rear strut using wire or cord to prevent the weight of the caliper from damaging the brake hose (Fig. 30).

pic 4

6. Remove the outboard brake shoe from the caliper by prying the brake shoe retaining clip over the raised area on the caliper. Then slide the brake shoe down and off of the brake caliper (Fig. 31).

pic 5

7. Pull the inboard brake shoe away from caliper piston until the retaining clip is free from the cavity in the piston (Fig. 32).

CLEANING

Warning: dust and dirt accumulating on brake parts during normal use may contain asbestos fibers from production or aftermarket brake linings. Breathing excessive concentrations of asbestos fibers can cause serious bodily harm. Exercise care when servicing brake parts. Do not sand or grind brake lining unless equipment used is designed to contain the dust residue. Do not clean brake parts with compressed air or by dry brushing. Cleaning should be done by dampening the brake components with a fine mist of water, then wiping the brake components clean with a dampened cloth. Dispose of cloth and all residue containing asbestos fibers in an impermeable container with the appropriate label. Follow practices prescribed by the occupational safety and health administration (osha) and the environmental protection agency (epa) for the handling, processing, and disposing of dust or debris that may contain asbestos fibers.

INSPECTION
Visually inspect brake shoes (pads) for uneven lining wear. Also inspect for excessive lining deterioration. Check the clearance between the tips of the wear indicators on the shoes (if equipped) and the brake rotors.

If a visual inspection does not adequately determine the condition of the lining, a physical check will be necessary. To check the amount of lining wear, remove the disc brake shoes from the calipers.

Measure each brake shoe. The combined brake shoe and its lining material thickness should be measured at its thinnest point.

For rear disc brake shoes, when a set of brake shoes are worn to a thickness of approximately 7.0 mm (9/32 inch), they should be replaced.

Replace both disc brake shoes (inboard and outboard) on each caliper. It is necessary to replace the shoes on the opposite side of the vehicle as well as the shoes failing inspection.
If the brake shoe assemblies do not require replacement, be sure to reinstall the brake shoes in the original position they were removed from.

INSTALLATION

CAUTION: When installing new brake components, be sure to use correct parts. Parts designed for BR3 Performance Brake System must not be mixed with other brake systems. These parts, similar in appearance, can be easily identified.

NOTE: Perform Step 1 through Step 8 on each side of vehicle to complete shoe set installation, then proceed to Step 9.

1. Completely retract the caliper piston back into piston bore of the caliper. This is required to gain the necessary shoe-to-rotor clearance for the caliper installation onto the steering knuckle.
2. Remove any protective paper from the noise suppression gasket on both inner and outer brake shoe assemblies (if equipped).
3. Install the inboard brake shoe into the caliper piston by firmly pressing the shoe in with the thumbs (Fig. 32). Be sure the inboard brake shoe is positioned squarely against the face of the caliper piston.

4. Slide the outboard brake shoe onto the caliper assembly (Fig. 31). Be sure the retaining clip is squarely seated in the depressed areas on the caliper.

5. Lubricate both adapter caliper slide abutments with a liberal amount of Mopar Multi-purpose Lubricant, or an equivalent.

CAUTION: Use care when installing the caliper assembly onto adapter so the guide pin bushings and sleeves do not get damaged by the mounting bosses on adapter.

6. Starting with the lower end, carefully lower the caliper and brake shoes over the brake rotor and catch the caliper's bottom edge behind the caliper slide abutment (Fig. 29). Rotate the top of the caliper into mounting position on the adapter.

CAUTION: Extreme caution should be taken not to cross thread the caliper guide pin bolts when they are installed.

7. Carefully install the caliper guide pin bolts (Fig. 28), then tighten them to a torque of 22 Nm (192 inch lbs.).
8. Install the tire and wheel assembly. Tighten the wheel mounting nuts to a torque of 135 Nm (100 ft. lbs.).
9. Lower the vehicle.
10. Pump the brake pedal to set the brake shoes to the brake rotors, then check brake fluid level in master cylinder reservoir. Adjust brake fluid level as necessary.
11. Road test the vehicle and make several stops to wear off any foreign material on the brakes and to seat the brake shoes.

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Rotor Replacement

2005 Dodge Neon L4-2.0L VIN C
Rear Brake Rotor
Vehicle Brakes and Traction Control Disc Brake System Brake Rotor/Disc Service and Repair Procedures Brake Rotor - Removal and Installation Rear Brake Rotor
REAR BRAKE ROTOR
REMOVAL - REAR

NOTE: Before proceeding, Refer to WARNING/CAUTION.

1. Raise the vehicle.
2. Remove the rear tire and wheel assembly.
3. Remove the rear disc brake caliper assembly from the brake rotor and store it out of the way.

pic 6

4. Remove any clips retaining the brake rotor (Fig. 28).
5. Remove the brake rotor by pulling it straight off the wheel mounting studs.
INSTALLATION - REAR

Part 2 Of 2

pic 7

CAUTION: When installing new brake components, be sure to use correct parts. Parts designed for BR3 Performance Brake System must not be mixed with other brake systems. These parts, similar in appearance, can be easily identified (Fig. 119).

NOTE: Inspect disc brake shoes and parking brake shoes before installation.

1. Install the rear brake rotor over the wheel mounting studs and onto the hub (Fig. 28).
2. Install rear disc brake caliper and shoes.
3. Install the tire and wheel assembly. Tighten the wheel mounting nuts to a torque of 135 Nm (100 ft. lbs.).
4. Adjust the parking brake shoes as necessary.
5. Lower the vehicle.
6. Pump the brake pedal before moving the vehicle to set the brake shoes to the brake rotor.

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I hope this helps. Let me know if you have other questions.

Take care and God Bless,

Joe
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Thursday, March 11th, 2021 AT 1:39 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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I need to know which way is tightening and loosening for brake adjuster.
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Thursday, March 11th, 2021 AT 1:39 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Welcome to 2CarPros.

Here are the directions for adjustment. It indicates which way to turn the adjuster. The attached picture correlates with the directions.

2003 Dodge Neon L4-2.0L VIN C

ADJUSTMENT- DRUM BRAKE SHOES
1. Verify the parking brake lever is in the fully released position.
2. Raise the vehicle.

Pic 1

3. Remove the rear brake adjusting hole rubber clue from the rear brake shoe support plate.
4. Insert a brake adjustment tool, or a screwdriver, through the adjusting hole in support plate and against the star wheel of the adjuster screw. Move the handle of tool downward to adjust the brake drag. Rotate the tire and wheel assembly while adjusting the adjuster screw. Continue to adjust the shoes until a slight drag is noticed when the tire and wheel assembly is rotated.

NOTE: In the event the brake shoes are over-adjusted, the adjuster can be backed off using the following step. If not, proceed to step 6.

Pic 2

5. If the shoes are in the over-adjusted position, insert a thin screwdriver into brake adjusting hole and push back the adjusting lever out of engagement with star wheel. Take care not to bend the adjusting lever. While holding the adjusting lever out of engagement with star wheel, back off the star wheel until the tire and wheel assembly is free to turn without dragging. Repeat the adjustment procedure.
6. Install adjusting hole rubber plug.
7. Repeat the above adjustment procedure to the other side brakes.
8. Apply and release the park brake lever one time after the adjustment process is completed so the parking brakes can readjust themselves to the new brake shoe adjustment.

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Let me know if this helps.

Take care,
Joe
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Thursday, March 11th, 2021 AT 1:39 PM (Merged)
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E.J ANDERSON
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I replaced the brakes shoes on both sides of the car. The driver side continues to lock up after a few days of use. Will go backwards but not forward. I know its not the emergency brake. How do I stop this from happening? It seems to self adjust itself to where it locks up only on that side.
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Thursday, March 11th, 2021 AT 1:40 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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Hi there,

Ensure that the brakes are assembled correctly and all springs and retainers are in place, if so then there should be no cause for this problem, check pic for view of rear brakes.

mark (mhpautos)


https://www.2carpros.com/forum/automotive_pictures/61395_1_92.jpg

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Thursday, March 11th, 2021 AT 1:40 PM (Merged)
Tiny
E.J ANDERSON
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In the picture you provided, the adjuster lever is up on top of the screw assmeby. In my car, the lever is down below the screw assembly. If its on top, it seems to want to push the break shoes out. The previous owner never used E-break, it was stuck so we cut both cables. Does that make a difference?
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Thursday, March 11th, 2021 AT 1:40 PM (Merged)
Tiny
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The hand brake operates the self adjuster, this all should be in working order, you should replace the cables and ensure rte brakes are assembled correctly and working as per makers specs.

Mark (mhpautos)
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