Mechanics

CYLINDER 1 AND 3 MISFIRE

2002 Saturn Vue • 6 cylinder AWD Automatic •

02 SATURN VUE 3.0L CYLINDER 1 AND 3 MISFIRE PARTS ALREADY CHANGED: PLUGS, COIL PACKS, INJECTORS, COMPUTER, O2 SENSORS, INTAKE AND GASKETS, COMPRESSION IS GOOD. STILL MISFIRE IN SAME CYLIDERS PRESISTS
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Melvins02
March 4, 2011.




There was a service bulletin that had a came out about using aftermarket alarm systems on this vehicle which was causing the vehicle to misfire and damage the catalytic converter. Here is the service bulletin.

Bulletin No: 02-06-05-004b

Date: February 14, 2006

INFORMATION

Subject: Misfire DTCs P0300, P1380, P1381 and Catalytic Converter Damage Due to Installation of Alarm Systems

Models: 2006 and Prior GM Passenger Cars and Light Duty Trucks
2006 and Prior HUMMER H2, H3
2006 and Prior Isuzu Light Duty Trucks

Supercede: This bulletin is being revised to add model years. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 02-06-05-004A (Section 06 - Engine/Propulsion System). General Motors Engineering, in an effort to determine the root cause of catalytic converter damage, has determined that aftermarket alarm systems incorrectly installed in vehicles have the potential to cause misfire codes and damage to the converter. These alarm systems use a circuit interrupt which utilizes the ignition circuit on the vehicles.

These alarm systems utilize mechanical relays and normal vehicle movement can trigger these relays to engage and disengage the ignition circuit while the vehicle is in motion. These disruptions of the ignition circuit, which occur in milliseconds, may cause more fuel to be commanded. Overtime, this dumping of fuel on and off again can cause misfire codes and ultimately damage the converter assembly.

Important: Engineering could not identify any alarms that utilize solid state circuitry that would eliminate this concern. Because of this, it has been determined that all alarm systems must be routed through the starter circuit in order to avoid this condition.

Dealers must be aware of this issue and take note of the wiring on vehicles with alarm systems that come in for repair, particularly for catalytic converter damage that seem to have no known root cause.

So if you have an aftermarket alarm, you may want to look into maybe removing it? Another thing you may want to verify is that the timing belt has not jumped a tooth or two? So you may want to verify that your timing marks all line up? Hope this info helps you and good luck.

JIS001
Mar 4, 2011.


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