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2002 Citroen Berlingo Repair Question


Topics covered: Noise, Wheel, Wheel bearing.
Mileage: 170,000 miles.

Asked on March 2, 2012

2002 berlingo 170000 miles with growling noise sounding like wheel bearings .Both front wheel bearings and drive shafts replaced.Noise gets worse as engine warms up. Gearbox works fine noise persists whether in drive or coasting in neutral or in gear and

Growling noise sounds like either wheel bearings or gearbox .Both front wheel bearings and drive shafts been changed.Noise has got louder over time;gets louder when warmed up.Noise seems to alter with cornering,less on nearside .Gearbox works fine but could this be the differential or gearbox bearings ? Noise continues whether wheels being driven or engine de-clutched or coasting in neutral.
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Replied on March 3, 2012

how long ago were the front wheel bearings replaced?

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Replied on March 3, 2012

Both front bearings replaced within 500 miles as well as driveshafts

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Replied on March 3, 2012

any chance it's the rear?

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Replied on March 4, 2012

Hi there! Thanks for getting back to me.
There is no noise from the rear; all wheels turn free with no rumble .This grumbling noise has got gradually worse over last few months .I replaced nearside front bearings twice even though there was no scoring on races or balls and no difference in noise level. There is very slight play in this bearing even though it's seated OK and axle nut torqued correctly.There should be no play though.Hope this problem doesn't give you guys the same headache its giving me !

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Replied on March 4, 2012

what about raising each wheel separately and running in place to find culprit?

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Replied on March 5, 2012

I have checked each raised wheel .All spin free with no rumble.Each raised front wheel has been driven in gear with no grinding .Nearside does have slight amount of play but spins smoothly.This noise is definitely getting worse cruising lightly on a good smooth road its as loud as the engine.This trouble started before Christmas. The nearside front bearing was changed although it showed no sign of play or wear. The present nearside bearing was fitted correctly with the big circlip in the swivel hub seated correctly Could it not be gearbox bearings ? Can feel vibration in footwell on both sides.Think I'll just go and shout at the wife

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Replied on March 6, 2012

so there is no indication of the noise while in car on any wheel raised and operated? i mean i would think a trans bearing would still be noisy even if not moving if trans is operating?

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Replied on March 6, 2012

Hi again! have raised alternate front wheels and there doesn't appear to be any differential/trans axle noise and similarly with both wheels raised whether in or out of gear....its got me beat !

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Replied on March 6, 2012

they do sell/rent suspension microphone devices that are designed to locate noises.

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Replied on March 7, 2012

Right ...good idea I will get on to that and keep you posted.

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