Camshaft timing

Tiny
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How should timing marks line up on a 1999 mazda protege 1.6 liter?
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Wednesday, August 10th, 2011 AT 4:09 AM

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KHLOW2008
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Here is a guide and the diagrams below so you can see how the job is done.

https://www.2carpros.com/diagrams/mazda/protege/1999

Check out the diagrams (Below). Please let us know if you need anything else to get the problem fixed. Cheers
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Wednesday, August 10th, 2011 AT 12:13 PM
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If I replaced my timing belt/chain and all the other belts at 70,000 miles, should it have snapped at 85,000 miles?
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 AT 6:25 PM (Merged)
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No. Either the previous repairs were not made properly or one of the components ran by the belt may have been worn and caused belt(s) to fail.

Thanks for using 2CarPros. Com!
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 AT 6:25 PM (Merged)
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Where are the timing marks and how should I line up the timing marks on a 1999 mazda Protege 1.6 Liter? Thank You.
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 AT 6:25 PM (Merged)
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Are you taking about valve timing or ignition timing?
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 AT 6:25 PM (Merged)
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I am trying to find a reasonable cost for replacing the timing belt on this car. The price ranges that I have been given are very wide. Could you please tell me what the cost of the timing belt is and the number of labor hours required to change the timing belt?
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 AT 6:25 PM (Merged)
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Hi Fred,

Thank you for the donation.

For 1.6 L and 2.0 L the prices are different. What is your engine capacity?

Labor time is from 2.4 hours to slightly over 3 hours depending on model and if oil seals were to be replaced.

Prices quoted are as OEM listed and might not be accurated depending on location. You have to check out locally.

Timing belt = $ 50.13 - $ 56.21
Tensioner = $ 83.61 - $ 164.23
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 AT 6:25 PM (Merged)
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Hi
Thanks for your reply. My car has a 2.0L engine. I am assuming that a tensioner is needed only if I was changing the timing belt myself. If a mechanic is performing the replacement does he still need to get a new tensioner?
Also is it recommended to change the water pump at the same time when the belts are changed?

Thanks again
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 AT 6:25 PM (Merged)
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The tensioner is recommended to be replaced as an assy with the timing belt no matter who is doing the job.

I would recommend the water pump replacement as well. Replacement involves removal of timing belts and I have seen many cases of water pump replacement required within a few thousand miles after timing belt was replaced.

For the 2.0L, the tensioner is more expensive at $164.23.
The belt is cheaper though.
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 AT 6:25 PM (Merged)
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Drive Train Axles Bearings problem
1998 Mazda Protege 4 cyl Front Wheel Drive 117000 miles

As much as I love my protege ES 1.8, according to the book it is soon due for a second timing belt change; changed at 58k. Expensive and probably not worth considering. Mechanic inspected and says it doesn't look bad. In a couple of states it asks only for an insection at 60k and a change much later. Any reason for the difference and if it looks okay is there a reasonable chance of it going more than 6ok on this second belt?
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 AT 6:25 PM (Merged)
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Hi alanabley,

Thank you for the donation.

Here is what I got from our database. Why the difference is anybody's guess. Since it has been recommended to be replaced at a later mileage for the same vehicle, there definitely is a reasonable chance for it to last longer than the recommended mileage.

As the visual inspection indicates the belt is still in good condition, I would agree that it is possible to use it for a longer period.

MANUFACTURER'S SUGGESTED SCHEDULED MAINTENANCE
For 1994-96 vehicles, the manufacturer recommends the belt be replaced at 60,000 mile intervals for vehicles sold outside of California. For vehicles sold in California, inspect timing belt at 60,000 and 90,000 miles, and replace timing belt at 105,000 miles.

For 1997-98 vehicles, the manufacturer recommends the belt be replaced at 60,000 mile intervals for vehicles sold outside of California and Massachusetts. For vehicles sold in California and Massachusetts, inspect timing belt at 60,000 and 90,000 miles, and replace timing belt at 105,000 miles.

For 1999-00 vehicles, the replacement interval is 60,000 miles except for vehicles registered in California, Connecticut, Delaware, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Virginia and Washington D.C. For these states, inspect timing belt at 60,000 and 90,000 miles, and replace timing belt at 105,000 miles.

For 2001-05 MX-5 Miata, the replacement interval is 60,000 miles.
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 AT 6:25 PM (Merged)
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I would like to change my timing belt on a mazda 2001 protege 2.0 L.
Can you explain me and show me how with diagrams?
Thank you very much
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 AT 6:25 PM (Merged)
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TIMING BELT REMOVAL/INSTALLATION [FS]

1. Disconnect the negative battery cable.
2. Remove the CMP sensor and CKP sensor.
3. Remove the ignition coils.
4. Remove the spark plug.

5. Remove in the order indicated in the image above.
6. Install in the reverse order of removal.
7. Inspect the air gap. Refer to Powertrain Management; Computers and Control Systems; Crankshaft Position Sensor.
8. Adjust the drive belt deflection/tension.
9. Start the engine and:

1. Inspect the pulleys and drive belt for runout and contact.
2. Inspect the ignition timing.

Crankshaft Pulley Removal Note

1. Remove the crankshaft using the SST.

Cylinder Head Cover Removal Note

1. Remove the cylinder head cover bolts a few turns in the order shown.

No.3 Engine Mount Rubber Removal Note

1. Suspend the engine using the SST.

Timing Belt Removal Note

1. Install the pulley lock bolt.
2. Turn the crankshaft clockwise and align the timing marks.

3. Turn the tensioner clockwise using an Allen wrench.
4. Disconnect the tensioner spring from the hook pin.

Caution: Forcefully twisting the timing belt turning it inside out, or allowing oil or grease on it will damage the belt and shorten its life.

Note: Mark the timing belt rotation on the belt for proper reinstallation.

Tensioner, Tensioner Spring Installation Note

1. Measure the tensioner spring free length.

O If not within the specification, replace the tensioner spring. Free length 36.6 mm (1.44 inch)

2. Install the tensioner.

3. Rotate the tensioner. If tensioner rotates with no resistance or does not rotate, replace the tensioner.

Timing Belt Installation Note

1. Verify that the timing belt pulley mark and camshaft pulley marks are aligned with the timing marks as shown.

2. Install the timing belt so that there is no looseness at the idler side.

3. Turn the crankshaft clockwise twice, and align the timing marks.
4. Verify that all timing marks are correctly aligned.

O If not aligned, remove the timing belt and repeat from Step 1.

Caution: Be sure not to apply tension other than that of the tensioner spring.

5. Turn the tensioner clockwise using an Allen wrench.

6. Connect the tensioner to the hook pin.

7. Turn the crankshaft clockwise twice, and verify that all timing marks are aligned.

O If not aligned, repeat from Step 1.

Cylinder Head Cover Installation Note

1. Verify that the grooves on the cylinder head cover are free of oil, water and other foreign material.
2. Install the cylinder head cover gasket into the cylinder head cover.
3. Apply silicone sealant to the cylinder head as shown.

4. Tighten the cylinder head cover bolts a few turns in the order shown.

Crankshaft Pulley Installation Note

1. Install the crankshaft using the SST.

Water Pump Pulley Installation Note

1. Install the water pump pulley by facing the "F" marks outward.
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 AT 6:25 PM (Merged)
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Thank you very much. WOuld you have more pictures, like the step of how to do. Sorry I speak french, maybe my writing is not perfect
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 AT 6:25 PM (Merged)
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ERNEST CLARK
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Unfortunately, there's way too many pics to up load for this procedure. Also, the service I use doesn't like it when we give their illustrations away for free.

But there are other techs on here that may have access to other illustrations. So hopefully they'll help.

I also suggest you purchase a repair manual, such as "Hanes" or "Chiltons". There's also online manuals such as AllData and Mitchell 1. They only cost about 25 bucks and they'll help you with this procedure and anything in the future as well.

If you need further advise, don't hesitate to ask.
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 AT 6:25 PM (Merged)
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OK. THank you again. Have a great day Ernest
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 AT 6:25 PM (Merged)
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No problem.
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1998 Mazda Protege Two Wheel Drive Manual 128K miles

follow up question on the 1998 Mazda protege with 128K. So since the timing belt has never been changed on this car (that I may be buying), is it possible that it may have damaged the engine already somehow? I plan on changing it right away but can there be hidden damaged due to the fact that it was never changed? Also what is the cost on average of this repair?
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Wednesday, October 3rd, 2018 AT 6:25 PM (Merged)
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Hi there,
Thank you for the donation,

There will be no problem associated with the timing belt if it is still running, but get it changed ASAP, as for cost I will have to check that out and post this a bit later.

Mark (mhpautos)
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1998 Mazda Protege Two Wheel Drive Manual 128K miles

planning on buying a 1998 mazda protege with 128,000 and timing belt has never been changed. Their mechanic said nothing about it during services. Isn't it way past its time to be changed? Should I expect to change it right away?
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