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Posted at Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:20 pm
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2004 Audi S4 Question V8 All Wheel Drive Automatic 92000 miles
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During ingnition, my car makes a rattle and shake sound that is coming from the engine and the idle drops to around 500 rpms. It only occurs for 3 seconds then after that it is fine. At stop lights, the vehicle idle decreases slightly giving an indication that it will staul but then goes back to normal. What could be the cause? Thanks

Jeff
 
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Posted at Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:06 am
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Does it sound like rocks in a coffeee can? ...lol Might be the catyletic converters falling apart inside then jamming tight after the exhaust pushes the pieces around.Any change in performance? Full of oil and properly maintained? Any work done on the car before?
 
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Posted at Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:09 am
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2CarPro Jack wrote:
Does it sound like rocks in a coffeee can? ...lol Might be the catyletic converters falling apart inside then jamming tight after the exhaust pushes the pieces around.Any change in performance? Full of oil and properly maintained? Any work done on the car before?



Yeah...actually it kind does....lol. I just had the catyletic converter replaced under the 80,000 mile warrenty by Audi in May of 2007! I don't notice any change in performance. I have maintained the vehicle very well and check the fluids every 2 weeks. The only work done on the engine was the new catyletic converter in May.
 
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Posted at Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:37 am
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I would get under it and tap on the exhaust with a soft faced hammer to see if the exhaust is rattling. Might be pieces of the old cat in the muffler
 
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Posted at Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:50 pm
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I brought the car to a mechanic the other day and they said that the noise seems to be coming from the inside of the engine. They did a 70 point inspection and said I should bring it to Audi and find out what is wrong because they didn't know.

Should Audi have taken steps to make sure the pieces of the old converter (if it is) be cleaned out before installing the new converter?

Oh and there is not a single sensor on to tell me if anything is wrong and I would assume with a car like that it would.
 
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The o2 sensor after the cat will tell you if the efficiency is low (cat is bad). Sounds like this could be a timing belt/chain tensioner problem. They will usually rattle first start up until they build up enough oil pressure to hold tension. If this is th ecase, I would have it looked at immediately
 
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