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Posted at Sat Jan 26, 2008 6:26 pm
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Engine problem
1999 Plymouth Breeze 4 cyl Front Wheel Drive Automatic 80000 miles
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1999 plymouth breeze 2.0 liter with 80k miles runs fine under load. Once it's warm and at idle, it dies. It does start right back up but if you are not constantly on the gas, it will die. Mechanic said it was the timing so we just replaced the timing belt and timing belt tensioner and the car still stalls at idle. Any ideas as to what the issue is?
 
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Posted at Sat Jan 26, 2008 6:41 pm
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first you should try some new plugs and wires, that should clear it up.
 
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Posted at Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:10 pm
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blackop555 wrote:
first you should try some new plugs and wires, that should clear it up.


Plugs have been cleaned and all is in great shape. The mechanic put it on the machine and the timing was what was fluctuating. When you're driving it there's no problem at all, it's just when you come to a stop and are at idle that it starts. Then it's only when the car is warm. When it's cold it has no issues.
 
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Posted at Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:48 pm
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Alright, have you clean out the throttle body and IAC module ports?

also verify that the exhaust system isnt plugged.
 
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Posted at Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:01 pm
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Thanks for the info. We'll hit that tomorrow. We're very frustrated right now. I would have thought that the mechanic would have hit on all these things on his big machine before the timing. I'll let you know what we find out.
 
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Posted at Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:09 pm
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Also i would like you to take a gander at the MAF sensor if you have one.

Id also like to hit on the points of a vaccum leak, that can cause poor idle when warmed up but not when cold occasionally.

i wouldnt be leaning towards injectors quite yet.

but defineteley check the vaccum. if you need help doing so let me know.
 
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Posted at Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:52 pm
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blackop555 wrote:
Also i would like you to take a gander at the MAF sensor if you have one.

Id also like to hit on the points of a vaccum leak, that can cause poor idle when warmed up but not when cold occasionally.

i wouldnt be leaning towards injectors quite yet.

but defineteley check the vaccum. if you need help doing so let me know.


Will do. I'll be on again tomorrow and let you know how we're making out. I really appreciate the suggestions!

Thanks Again! Very Happy
 
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Posted at Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:26 am
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OK, IAC has been cleaned and still the same issue. No vacuum leak. Frustration level is closing in on RED and I'm afraid he's gonna blow! Smile Any other ideas, or suggestions?
 
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Posted at Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:44 pm
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next move is to replace the pcv valve, it is cheap, also the EGR valve and ports may be plugged with carbon and need cleaning.
 
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Posted at Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:33 pm
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Hi,

One step ahead here. PCV was replaced. EGR was checked and cleaned and appears to be working fine. Throttle Positioning sensor was also replaced. Any other ideas?
 
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